Oil/Air Separator Canister Experiment - Page 4

AdventureDad · 11-03-2016, 07:25 PM

I have a dremel...and a tiny bit of sense...i may go for it!

rtking · 11-03-2016, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AdventureDad

I have a dremel...and a tiny bit of sense...i may go for it!

I'm doing the same. I ordered the thermostat, but just haven't had the time to actually do the job. I will be using a Dremel as well. What's the worst that can happen? (Famous last words...)

AdventureDad · 11-03-2016, 10:55 PM

What's the worst that can happen? (Famous last words...)

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WELL....as a long time ER and acute care RN, I can say this...here in Mississippi, many ER visits began with the phrase, "Hey ya'll, watch this!"

BlackBike · 11-04-2016, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rtking

I'm doing the same. I ordered the thermostat, but just haven't had the time to actually do the job. I will be using a Dremel as well. What's the worst that can happen? (Famous last words...)

pyoungbl · 11-04-2016, 09:52 AM

Hummm, I seem to recall some exciting events that started with the words "Hold my beer and watch this!"

Peter Y.

Azhule · 11-04-2016, 10:42 AM

Ahhh yes, the final "weight removal" step to every KLR 650 (fire always makes things lighter)

Jay In Milpitas · 11-06-2016, 12:33 PM

Katflap is quite right here: http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....7&postcount=42

I'd like to expand on that by pointing out that burning off the fumes from the crankcase is best for the environment since the spent gasses are processed by the cat-converter. That doesn't include the vapors/liquids that can also be included in the mixture emitted from the breather.

I don't know if the OCS would be more effective if placed further downstream towards the air filter, or if pyoungbl's catch can (after the OCS) stuffed with metal mesh would trap nearly all the liquid and allow only the fumes (gasses) to enter the filter housing and thus cleanly burn away.

Proper operating temp is key to getting the water boiled out and turning gasoline/petrol back in to usable energy. Eagerly watching to see what grows out of the collective experiments.

jbfla · 11-06-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

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Proper operating temp is key to getting the water boiled out .......

Jay, just to add to the confusion.....

I have had 5 oil analyses with the stock 70C thermostat in place.

Even when there was a high percentage of fuel in the crankcase oil,

the % of water in the oil was zero.

jb

rtking · 11-06-2016, 10:47 PM

LOL - yeah, I hope that things don't go quite so pear-shaped when I work on things.

The trouble with me is that I tend to go overboard (probably my OCD kicking in), like using the Dremel to modify the thermostat housing, but only to discover a "pocket" in the casting, so I had to Dremel further to remove the pocket. And I polished the interior of the thermostat while I was there. Yeah... OCD.

Too late to ride, so it'll have to wait to the weekend, but looking forward to seeing the results from installing the 90* Celsius thermostat.

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jbfla · 11-06-2016, 11:32 PM

I've put about 100 miles on the RX3 with the 90C.

The only difference I could tell was the engine temperature gauge went to 3 bars and stayed there.

jb

rjmorel · 11-06-2016, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Azhule

Ahhh yes, the final "weight removal" step to every KLR 650 (fire always makes things lighter)

Got that right Azhule, heres a pic of my brothers Yamaha 360mx. I swear it was running fine last time I parked it though it may of been a touch lean on the mixture

rj

Jay In Milpitas · 11-07-2016, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jbfla

I've put about 100 miles on the RX3 with the 90C.

The only difference I could tell was the engine temperature gauge went to 3 bars and stayed there.

jb

Have you sniffed your oil since? Even just a whiff from the fill port should do.

pyoungbl · 11-07-2016, 07:49 PM

jb, I think you and I are seeing the same thing on the instrument panel but describing it differently. My bike displays 4 bars...counting the one that is always on. As you know I'm using the 90C thermostat too. A couple days ago it was about 40F outside and it did not take long to get the left radiator up to 195F and the oil up to about 180F. That's exactly what I was hoping for. What temps are you seeing at, say, left radiator input, right radiator output, and the sightglass? So far I'm very happy with my higher temp thermostat.

Peter Y.

jbfla · 11-07-2016, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas

Have you sniffed your oil since? Even just a whiff from the fill port should do.

Haven't done a sniff test, yet.

jb

jbfla · 11-07-2016, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pyoungbl

jb, I think you and I are seeing the same thing on the instrument panel but describing it differently. My bike displays 4 bars...counting the one that is always on. As you know I'm using the 90C thermostat too. A couple days ago it was about 40F outside and it did not take long to get the left radiator up to 195F and the oil up to about 180F. That's exactly what I was hoping for. What temps are you seeing at, say, left radiator input, right radiator output, and the sightglass? So far I'm very happy with my higher temp thermostat.

Peter Y.

P, my infrared thermometer is in NC, so I don't have a way to measure.

I'm relying on the next oil analysis to tell me if the higher temp thermostat helps or not.

jb

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Azhule Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CO Posts: 1,525	Ahhh yes, the final "weight removal" step to every KLR 650 (fire always makes things lighter) __________________ "Think as you like... but this self proclaimed Professor is always right" - Buckshot "You never know what someone is hiding beneath their smile..." - NinjaTom - R.I.P.
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11-06-2016, 12:33 PM	#52
Jay In Milpitas Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Milpitas, CA. USA Posts: 775	Passing gas. Katflap is quite right here: http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....7&postcount=42 I'd like to expand on that by pointing out that burning off the fumes from the crankcase is best for the environment since the spent gasses are processed by the cat-converter. That doesn't include the vapors/liquids that can also be included in the mixture emitted from the breather. I don't know if the OCS would be more effective if placed further downstream towards the air filter, or if pyoungbl's catch can (after the OCS) stuffed with metal mesh would trap nearly all the liquid and allow only the fumes (gasses) to enter the filter housing and thus cleanly burn away. Proper operating temp is key to getting the water boiled out and turning gasoline/petrol back in to usable energy. Eagerly watching to see what grows out of the collective experiments.
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11-06-2016, 10:47 PM	#54
rtking Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 410	LOL - yeah, I hope that things don't go quite so pear-shaped when I work on things. The trouble with me is that I tend to go overboard (probably my OCD kicking in), like using the Dremel to modify the thermostat housing, but only to discover a "pocket" in the casting, so I had to Dremel further to remove the pocket. And I polished the interior of the thermostat while I was there. Yeah... OCD. Too late to ride, so it'll have to wait to the weekend, but looking forward to seeing the results from installing the 90* Celsius thermostat. [IMG][/IMG]
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11-06-2016, 11:32 PM	#55
jbfla Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: FL, GA, NC Posts: 771	I've put about 100 miles on the RX3 with the 90C. The only difference I could tell was the engine temperature gauge went to 3 bars and stayed there. jb __________________ 2016 Honda CB500F......2017 Triumph Street Twin 2014 XT 250........
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11-03-2016, 07:25 PM	#46
AdventureDad Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 253	I have a dremel...and a tiny bit of sense...i may go for it!
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11-03-2016, 10:55 PM	#48
AdventureDad Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 253	What's the worst that can happen? (Famous last words...) [/QUOTE] WELL....as a long time ER and acute care RN, I can say this...here in Mississippi, many ER visits began with the phrase, "Hey ya'll, watch this!"
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11-04-2016, 09:52 AM	#50
pyoungbl Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portsmouth, Virginia, USA Posts: 632	Hummm, I seem to recall some exciting events that started with the words "Hold my beer and watch this!" Peter Y.
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11-07-2016, 07:49 PM	#58
pyoungbl Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portsmouth, Virginia, USA Posts: 632	jb, I think you and I are seeing the same thing on the instrument panel but describing it differently. My bike displays 4 bars...counting the one that is always on. As you know I'm using the 90C thermostat too. A couple days ago it was about 40F outside and it did not take long to get the left radiator up to 195F and the oil up to about 180F. That's exactly what I was hoping for. What temps are you seeing at, say, left radiator input, right radiator output, and the sightglass? So far I'm very happy with my higher temp thermostat. Peter Y.
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