My response to the everide RX3 review

Oengus · 10-02-2016, 08:20 PM

The RX3 and RC3 share an engine but have different platforms, the TT250 is totally different. Zongshen did not decide to bring these bikes to the USA CSC did.
They also are bringing over the RZ3 that also shares the NC250 Engine, for 2017, it does not share a frame with the others, they are all different other than the engine.
Zongshen has a 450cc version in R&D an RX4, they also are developing a 400cc twin.
http://www.mojie.mobi/upload/image/2...1333283328.jpg
It is not uncommon for people to make assumptions, The RX3 was not built to compete in Dakar. However, if the people at Zongshen want to garner more respect they may want to engineer the RX4 to do so. They could call that version a Marathon version.
These guys both of them should test the SSR250 with the NC250 engine on the trails they like to ride on. But they do not have to, it is a free country.

AdventureDad · 10-03-2016, 07:35 PM

Good grief....I simply cannot believe the thread over on ADV rider. Joe is more polarizing than I thought. I've posted a comment or 2, but it has probably doubled the RX3 thread views just on his blog posting alone. Can't we all just get along?

fjmartin · 10-03-2016, 07:45 PM

Not sure if you all saw that Joe posted an apology on the CSC blog.
http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=23212
I'm glad he did. 99% of what he posted was spot on but I could tell that as he composed the blog that he was getting madder and madder and that escalated into the personal attacks which should have been left out. Without those the blog should stand as it had merit. Everide's series on the RX3 started out biased when he said he didn't want this bike even though his subscribers are the ones who voted for it to be tested and raised the funds. He should have done a valid and non-biased/comedic in his own mind review. Now I'm just hoping that this thing quiets down and doesn't impact CSC negatively. Who knows, maybe the old phrase of bad press is better than no press will hold and CSC gets a bump in sales rather than being impacted negatively. I hope that's the case and I wish them luck!

DohcBikes · 10-03-2016, 08:07 PM

Is this really a thread on a forum that talks about talking about bikes? Lord almighty go out and ride, tell people in person your bike is the bomb. Leave the nerd fights to the nerds.

Dualsport Chic · 10-04-2016, 06:41 AM

If Mr. Berk would like to continue representing CSC, he best pipe down as he is alienating people at a rapid rate - he's like a pit-bull on steroids. Riders/owners will have all sorts of opinions on CSC's bikes - some great, some critical. But what CSC needs to understand is that all this feedback is useful - it can help CSC further improve Zongshen products to the point where they do directly compete with their Japanese counterparts. This is healthy - not something to squelch. Take feedback graciously, garner what you can from it, and work with CSC staff and CSC bike owners to further develop your product. The rants are TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

10-03-2016, 07:45 PM	#3
fjmartin Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Redmond, WA. Posts: 534	Not sure if you all saw that Joe posted an apology on the CSC blog. http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=23212 I'm glad he did. 99% of what he posted was spot on but I could tell that as he composed the blog that he was getting madder and madder and that escalated into the personal attacks which should have been left out. Without those the blog should stand as it had merit. Everide's series on the RX3 started out biased when he said he didn't want this bike even though his subscribers are the ones who voted for it to be tested and raised the funds. He should have done a valid and non-biased/comedic in his own mind review. Now I'm just hoping that this thing quiets down and doesn't impact CSC negatively. Who knows, maybe the old phrase of bad press is better than no press will hold and CSC gets a bump in sales rather than being impacted negatively. I hope that's the case and I wish them luck! __________________ 2017 BMW F800GS Adventure
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10-03-2016, 08:07 PM	#4
DohcBikes Banned Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 59	Go Ride. Is this really a thread on a forum that talks about talking about bikes? Lord almighty go out and ride, tell people in person your bike is the bomb. Leave the nerd fights to the nerds.
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10-04-2016, 06:41 AM	#5
Dualsport Chic Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Western, CT Posts: 168	If Mr. Berk would like to continue representing CSC, he best pipe down as he is alienating people at a rapid rate - he's like a pit-bull on steroids. Riders/owners will have all sorts of opinions on CSC's bikes - some great, some critical. But what CSC needs to understand is that all this feedback is useful - it can help CSC further improve Zongshen products to the point where they do directly compete with their Japanese counterparts. This is healthy - not something to squelch. Take feedback graciously, garner what you can from it, and work with CSC staff and CSC bike owners to further develop your product. The rants are TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. __________________ Carpe Diem IBA#65836 2005 BMW F650gs 2008 Yamaha XT250 2013 Yamaha XT250 2009 Suzuki Gladius
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10-02-2016, 08:20 PM	#1
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	The RX3 and RC3 share an engine but have different platforms, the TT250 is totally different. Zongshen did not decide to bring these bikes to the USA CSC did. They also are bringing over the RZ3 that also shares the NC250 Engine, for 2017, it does not share a frame with the others, they are all different other than the engine. Zongshen has a 450cc version in R&D an RX4, they also are developing a 400cc twin. http://www.mojie.mobi/upload/image/2...1333283328.jpg It is not uncommon for people to make assumptions, The RX3 was not built to compete in Dakar. However, if the people at Zongshen want to garner more respect they may want to engineer the RX4 to do so. They could call that version a Marathon version. These guys both of them should test the SSR250 with the NC250 engine on the trails they like to ride on. But they do not have to, it is a free country.
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10-03-2016, 07:35 PM	#2
AdventureDad Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 253	Good grief....I simply cannot believe the thread over on ADV rider. Joe is more polarizing than I thought. I've posted a comment or 2, but it has probably doubled the RX3 thread views just on his blog posting alone. Can't we all just get along?
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