New Boom Vader 2020, review and more

Narofive · 01-02-2020, 12:10 PM

I don't speak much English, so I translated everything with Google

Hello friends, I am a new owner of a 2020 Boom Vader Gen 2, bought on December 2 through Kronik Racing and a week later I was already in my hands, it is the blue model and here are some data.

1 - PURCHASE
I chose Kronik Racing after reading here and in other places so good reviews about them, I really didn't go wrong with them since everything went very well.

2 - DELIVERY AND ASSEMBLY
Two days after buying the company that handled the shipment, he was already calling me to schedule an appointment for package delivery.
On the day of delivery the package looked good, some holes showed the little Vader inside, so I opened the box to check that everything looked good and sign the sheet to the carrier.
When I wanted to take it out of the box quickly I realized that the screw and nut of the rear shock absorber were not, just as the front axle nut was not in place, well it is a long trip from China and something would have to be lost, So it is not a great loss.
After putting the battery, adjusting the bars and mirrors, the next day I got nuts and bolts to be able to remove it from the metal structure and to be able to continue with the first initial steps, right there I asked for axles and shock absorbers from Honda Grom OEM to ensure that it would solve problems with my weight (240 pounds), the next thing was to follow some recommendations that I read here, I changed the oil for something better, by the way he had it was quite chip and dirty enough would say, I'm glad I changed it, look inside the tank of gasoline to see if it had some dirt but it looked very clean, so I added some gas and see if it would start, and it did, that first start was really successful, I just had to touch idle.
Lubricate the chain and remove some tension since it came very tight was the following.

First Start

I have created this youtube channel to upload several videos that I made and that I will do soon about several things of the Boom Vader, do not forget to subscribe

3 - FIRST SETTINGS
In the first week came the first adjustments to be able to leave it well optimized. I started noticing that I had too much strength and very revolutionized, then I checked that it came with a pinion of 14 and I already had a 16 and 17 at home, I tried first with the 16 and the thing improved a lot but I ended up installing the 17 to go lower RPM The first miles of shooting.

The odometer came with a lot of difference with respect to the GPS, marked 7 miles more than the real one, today after trying some top end, it climbed to 62 MPH, being 55 MPH real, in some descent, so thanks to Some information from the forum followed the steps and I managed to put it exactly with the GPS, now super real and the miles in the trip fail 1 or 2 more in every 100 miles traveled.

With the Motorcycle of stock my real speed data with the pinion of 17 as the only change:

56 MPH at some descent with a lot of air near 7500 RPM

50 MPH in flat terrain with a lot of air, it costs a lot to maintain them but it is possible, at 6750 RPM

45 MPH is the speed you like most in any situation at 6000 RPM, it goes very smooth and nothing forced.

40 MPH is on any rise in gear 3 to 7000 RPM, a lot of strength to face big climbs where the 4 simply dies.

These numbers are real compared to GPS and 240 pounds with temperatures from 40 to 60 F. In Texas.

4 - PHASE 2, Optimize Engine

The next thing for the Vader is to remove everything from the Emissions to take it with the Cleanest Air to the Engine, if any good post explaining how to do so would appreciate it.

Change the Gas Lines for better ones from Autozone.

And check everything when I decide to remove the Tapas, I haven't done it yet.

5 - PROBLEMS FOUND

-There seems to be some pressure problem in the gas tank, the Vader will not start well until you remove that vacuum from the tank, pressing the lid takes it out, then it does not give problems on the fly.

-My plate light was melting, I made the change for something better.

-With pinion 17 the chain made a lot of knocking noise somewhere, cut some metal on the pinion cover and solved.

-Many vibration in the area of the lighthouse, a lot of cable and connections, not yet solved but I will open and see what I can do.

-Ruid when making gear changes, it seems to be softening with use, but still continues.

-Neutral was lost, now seems to be more easily, almost 300 miles to this point

Well friends I will update this as things change or there is new news ... If anyone can give any advice for improvement I would be grateful.

**JerryHawk250** · 01-02-2020, 01:11 PM

Nice review.

Narofive · 01-02-2020, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Nice review.

Thanks but I still have much more to add, but I do not know how to put the videos that I am uploading to youtube, there is some code for the player to come out, and for the photos some image server that you advise me, I will update all the content when I have sure how to do it right

**JerryHawk250** · 01-02-2020, 01:31 PM

Just copy and paste the YouTube address in your post. The video will show up when you post.

ikeus685 · 01-02-2020, 01:31 PM

Nice.. I am going to keep an eye on how you mod out your bike. Yes: I have the same problem with a vapor lock happening that shuts the engine down after running high rpm or a good engine load on. This is quickly remodied by removeing, reseating the gas cap.. No big improvement made by removing the larger outter gasket.. I am debating if its worth the effort to install the vented style off road style gas cap?

Narofive · 01-02-2020, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ikeus685

Nice.. I am going to keep an eye on how you mod out your bike. Yes: I have the same problem with a vapor lock happening that shuts the engine down after running high rpm or a good engine load on. This is quickly remodied by removeing, reseating the gas cap.. No big improvement made by removing the larger outter gasket.. I am debating if its worth the effort to install the vented style off road style gas cap?

I hope that together we can fix all the problems, at the moment it is being very fun.

Narofive · 01-06-2020, 04:03 PM

I would like to know for those who took the emissions that differences they noticed of improvement. Is there a post that explains how to cancel it or how should I do it?

Narofive · 01-15-2020, 11:16 AM

so I decided to cover only with the seal and leave it alone like that. The changes at the moment was that I was quieter in that part but I have not canceled anything else, could I go like this or do I need to cancel everything related to emissions?
What other differences does emissions take away? I'm a little lost in this matter.

just install the black part

2LZ · 01-15-2020, 06:55 PM

The air injection doesn't rob performance, it's just unsightly. It's made to shoot fresh air on your cat under load to get it hot to burn the excess HC's that make it thru the combustion process.

kirbo7106 · 01-15-2020, 07:10 PM

Welcome to the forum! Now that’s a great introduction! The video is a plus! Keep us posted on what you do to your bike!

Enjoy the Ride!

Narofive · 01-16-2020, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

The air injection doesn't rob performance, it's just unsightly. It's made to shoot fresh air on your cat under load to get it hot to burn the excess HC's that make it thru the combustion process.

what he is not supposed to do is burn engine smoke again

daytonacat · 04-12-2020, 01:07 PM

Narofive;
can you place an actual link to the black plate you installed on the motor?

Also, what is the gear shift pattern (1 down-3 up?, ect.) and can you take a picture of the area where you removed metal when you changed to the 17 tooth front sprocket?

Thanks

Carl

p.s. just got my new Boom Vader 125 and am slowly in the process of putting the bike together. Had to MAIL the paper work to Richmond VA DMV headquarters as all the DMV offices are shut down in the state due to teh coronavirus.

RK97 · 10-01-2020, 03:48 PM

Just took my first real ride (with license plate) 30 mins ago. Bike shuck down from vapor lock (i assume) 3 times in 10 miles...

Anyone have a solution for this?

hounderd · 10-03-2020, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RK97

Just took my first real ride (with license plate) 30 mins ago. Bike shuck down from vapor lock (i assume) 3 times in 10 miles...

Anyone have a solution for this?

my 2020 vader did the same thing when i first got it.

got it back home, replaced the cheap chinese fuel filter, fuel lines, spark plug and put in a vm22 (egr and airbox deleted). never had a problem since.

Musictrek · 11-20-2020, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hounderd

my 2020 vader did the same thing when i first got it.

got it back home, replaced the cheap chinese fuel filter, fuel lines, spark plug and put in a vm22 (egr and airbox deleted). never had a problem since.

The problem was the vent hose probably kinked within the plastics of the top housing on the tank. Also, the check valve attached to that hose must be mounted upright or it wont work correctly and will definitely block the tank from venting or depressurizing. I recently got a Boom and found this problem on mine. The check valve in the pic is upright to work as shown. My finger also points to a pinch in the line as it wasn't routed very well

01-02-2020, 12:10 PM	#1
Narofive Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 13	New Boom Vader 2020, review and more I don't speak much English, so I translated everything with Google Hello friends, I am a new owner of a 2020 Boom Vader Gen 2, bought on December 2 through Kronik Racing and a week later I was already in my hands, it is the blue model and here are some data. 1 - PURCHASE I chose Kronik Racing after reading here and in other places so good reviews about them, I really didn't go wrong with them since everything went very well. 2 - DELIVERY AND ASSEMBLY Two days after buying the company that handled the shipment, he was already calling me to schedule an appointment for package delivery. On the day of delivery the package looked good, some holes showed the little Vader inside, so I opened the box to check that everything looked good and sign the sheet to the carrier. When I wanted to take it out of the box quickly I realized that the screw and nut of the rear shock absorber were not, just as the front axle nut was not in place, well it is a long trip from China and something would have to be lost, So it is not a great loss. After putting the battery, adjusting the bars and mirrors, the next day I got nuts and bolts to be able to remove it from the metal structure and to be able to continue with the first initial steps, right there I asked for axles and shock absorbers from Honda Grom OEM to ensure that it would solve problems with my weight (240 pounds), the next thing was to follow some recommendations that I read here, I changed the oil for something better, by the way he had it was quite chip and dirty enough would say, I'm glad I changed it, look inside the tank of gasoline to see if it had some dirt but it looked very clean, so I added some gas and see if it would start, and it did, that first start was really successful, I just had to touch idle. Lubricate the chain and remove some tension since it came very tight was the following. First Start I have created this youtube channel to upload several videos that I made and that I will do soon about several things of the Boom Vader, do not forget to subscribe 3 - FIRST SETTINGS In the first week came the first adjustments to be able to leave it well optimized. I started noticing that I had too much strength and very revolutionized, then I checked that it came with a pinion of 14 and I already had a 16 and 17 at home, I tried first with the 16 and the thing improved a lot but I ended up installing the 17 to go lower RPM The first miles of shooting. The odometer came with a lot of difference with respect to the GPS, marked 7 miles more than the real one, today after trying some top end, it climbed to 62 MPH, being 55 MPH real, in some descent, so thanks to Some information from the forum followed the steps and I managed to put it exactly with the GPS, now super real and the miles in the trip fail 1 or 2 more in every 100 miles traveled. With the Motorcycle of stock my real speed data with the pinion of 17 as the only change: 56 MPH at some descent with a lot of air near 7500 RPM 50 MPH in flat terrain with a lot of air, it costs a lot to maintain them but it is possible, at 6750 RPM 45 MPH is the speed you like most in any situation at 6000 RPM, it goes very smooth and nothing forced. 40 MPH is on any rise in gear 3 to 7000 RPM, a lot of strength to face big climbs where the 4 simply dies. These numbers are real compared to GPS and 240 pounds with temperatures from 40 to 60 F. In Texas. 4 - PHASE 2, Optimize Engine The next thing for the Vader is to remove everything from the Emissions to take it with the Cleanest Air to the Engine, if any good post explaining how to do so would appreciate it. Change the Gas Lines for better ones from Autozone. And check everything when I decide to remove the Tapas, I haven't done it yet. 5 - PROBLEMS FOUND -There seems to be some pressure problem in the gas tank, the Vader will not start well until you remove that vacuum from the tank, pressing the lid takes it out, then it does not give problems on the fly. -My plate light was melting, I made the change for something better. -With pinion 17 the chain made a lot of knocking noise somewhere, cut some metal on the pinion cover and solved. -Many vibration in the area of the lighthouse, a lot of cable and connections, not yet solved but I will open and see what I can do. -Ruid when making gear changes, it seems to be softening with use, but still continues. -Neutral was lost, now seems to be more easily, almost 300 miles to this point Well friends I will update this as things change or there is new news ... If anyone can give any advice for improvement I would be grateful. __________________ Youtube Channel Boom Vader 125 Last edited by Narofive; 01-04-2020 at 02:23 AM. Reason: Updating photos and video
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01-02-2020, 01:11 PM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,552	Nice review. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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01-02-2020, 01:31 PM	#4
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,552	Just copy and paste the YouTube address in your post. The video will show up when you post. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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01-06-2020, 04:03 PM	#7
Narofive Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 13	I would like to know for those who took the emissions that differences they noticed of improvement. Is there a post that explains how to cancel it or how should I do it? __________________ Youtube Channel Boom Vader 125
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01-15-2020, 11:16 AM	#8
Narofive Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 13	so I decided to cover only with the seal and leave it alone like that. The changes at the moment was that I was quieter in that part but I have not canceled anything else, could I go like this or do I need to cancel everything related to emissions? What other differences does emissions take away? I'm a little lost in this matter. just install the black part __________________ Youtube Channel Boom Vader 125
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01-15-2020, 06:55 PM	#9
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,078	The air injection doesn't rob performance, it's just unsightly. It's made to shoot fresh air on your cat under load to get it hot to burn the excess HC's that make it thru the combustion process. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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01-15-2020, 07:10 PM	#10
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	Greetings! Welcome to the forum! Now that’s a great introduction! The video is a plus! Keep us posted on what you do to your bike! Enjoy the Ride! __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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04-12-2020, 01:07 PM	#12
daytonacat Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Woodbridge VA Posts: 60	black plate and gear sequence Narofive; can you place an actual link to the black plate you installed on the motor? Also, what is the gear shift pattern (1 down-3 up?, ect.) and can you take a picture of the area where you removed metal when you changed to the 17 tooth front sprocket? Thanks Carl p.s. just got my new Boom Vader 125 and am slowly in the process of putting the bike together. Had to MAIL the paper work to Richmond VA DMV headquarters as all the DMV offices are shut down in the state due to teh coronavirus.
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10-01-2020, 03:48 PM	#13
RK97 Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 42	Just took my first real ride (with license plate) 30 mins ago. Bike shuck down from vapor lock (i assume) 3 times in 10 miles... Anyone have a solution for this?
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