Good Craigslist Finds!

Jim · 10-23-2009, 08:12 PM

Since we have a topic for all the crazy things on craigslist (mainly the asking price), here's a topic for the good finds...

This bike looks pretty nice, good shape, and for the market, a good price (in my opinion)
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...434773533.html

This one is pretty nice too
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...434796129.html

Weldangrind · 10-23-2009, 08:38 PM

Those are both pretty cool, but I think they're both left-side kick. I don't think I could get used to that.

I'd really like a CJ750; I think they're the ultimate China Bike (maybe without the sidecar).

AZ200cc · 10-23-2009, 11:28 PM

Good idea

Weldangrind · 10-23-2009, 11:53 PM

I think that VinceDrake bought one; I'm pretty sure he started a thread on it.

Reveeen · 10-24-2009, 02:44 AM

1) You realize the Jawa was around $850 when it was new? (at least out east) For the 350, I *think* the 250 was around $700. There is one that pops up out here for sale, from time to time, for the same kind of money. Advertised as a "Jawa", I was hoping for an old speedway bike, but it was not to be. The kicker shaft is the weak point (they break regularly).

2) Zundapp pretty neat. I wonder where that one was hiding, as very few German items didn't survive the war, you sure wouldn't have wanted to be seen on one.

Jim · 10-24-2009, 02:56 AM

I don't know much history on any of them that's for sure... But about the price, in 1973 what did a brand new fully loaded pickup truck cost? I'm sure it is worth more now too.

Reveeen · 10-24-2009, 04:46 AM

In 1973 I bought a brand new Ford van. A "shorty", in black, 302, auto, air, stereo, window delete, as a Ford employee $2200. You have to remember that trucks were cheaper than cars in these years, only becoming more expensive around 1979. I also bought a Ranchero in 1973, again as a Ford employee, 460, 4 gear, the usual other options, $3200. In 1973 I bought a 1970 Pontiac Tempest station wagon (new old stock) with 3 options on the car: ram air IV 455, 4 gear, posi, ordered for only one purpose, and never picked up, I think that one was around $1800.

The 350 Jawa had around 20hp, I'm sure the 250 was much less, at the time they couldn't give those bikes away, designed for mass-transit in Communist countries, I'm sure they were dumped here for much needed "hard" currency. The Honda's were nothing special in those years (except the 750, introduced in 1969, for $1600), with their pressed steel/tubing frames. 1973 was the first year (in Canada) for the JPS Norton (I owned one later). You could still buy wwII 45 Harleys (in the crate) in 1973 for $500.

Jim · 10-24-2009, 11:45 AM

Sound like the China Bike of yesterday :wink:

phil · 10-24-2009, 09:11 PM

i sure like the oldies i think they just have class, and those are 2 good looking examples, but when i started riding one of the first bikes i had was a maico. i wouldnt ride either farther than i could push, but they are pretty. and they say the chinese are junk :P

dsrt4 · 10-24-2009, 10:05 PM

Heres a good one!

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/1436109495.html

tokarev · 10-26-2009, 07:40 PM

I am having one of the Chang Jiang 750's built in the PRC as I type. Mine will look something like this one with a few added touches. Black pipes, Front turn signals, fog lights......

Weldangrind · 10-26-2009, 10:22 PM

tokarev, that's a bike I'd really like to have (minus the sidecar). Please give us details as they happen.

Dragon · 10-27-2009, 12:42 AM

What is the top speed of the CJ without sidecar?

AZ200cc · 10-28-2009, 10:18 PM

This price is hard to beat

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/mcy/1435957366.html

VinceDrake · 10-28-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I think that VinceDrake bought one; I'm pretty sure he started a thread on it.

Yup, I did, still have it. Have had some minor issues with it that are driving me nuts, but all in all I'm very happy with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon

What is the top speed of the CJ without sidecar?

[Note: Mine has the overhead-valve engine, and higher gearing]

With sidecar, I Got a ticket for 120km/h in a 100km zone, but that was everything it had, 100% WFO. And it don't stop from that speed worth a hill of beans. I think my Tow Truck could stop faster. With a car on the back.

Without the sidecar (It comes off easy) Really, it gets really, really nasty/scary sounding around 120-125, and really it's right out of it's rev range. Theretically, they are supposed to be able to do 135 with no sidecar, and the high-speed gearing (Mine has) On flat ground, with no wind.

Realistically though, cruising speed for the OHV with the Higher geared rear end is about 90-95 with or without the chair. Beyond that you're way out of the engine's rev range, and it's baking and begging for mercy

With stock rear gear ratio, 85-90 cruising speed with the OHV

The flatheads, theoretically will sprint to 110-115 no bucket, higher gears, and cruise at 90. Stock gearing, Cruising speed 80km/h, bucket or not.

Basically, the whole thing is built on 1938 technology. I wasn't there, but from what I gather the world was a slower, and less reliable place back then....

--Vince
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10-23-2009, 08:12 PM	#1
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Good Craigslist Finds! Since we have a topic for all the crazy things on craigslist (mainly the asking price), here's a topic for the good finds... This bike looks pretty nice, good shape, and for the market, a good price (in my opinion) http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...434773533.html This one is pretty nice too http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...434796129.html __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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10-23-2009, 08:38 PM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Those are both pretty cool, but I think they're both left-side kick. I don't think I could get used to that. I'd really like a CJ750; I think they're the ultimate China Bike (maybe without the sidecar). __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-23-2009, 11:28 PM	#3
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Good idea __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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10-23-2009, 11:53 PM	#4
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I think that VinceDrake bought one; I'm pretty sure he started a thread on it. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-24-2009, 02:56 AM	#6
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	I don't know much history on any of them that's for sure... But about the price, in 1973 what did a brand new fully loaded pickup truck cost? I'm sure it is worth more now too. __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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10-24-2009, 02:44 AM	#5
Reveeen Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: orbital platform Posts: 741	1) You realize the Jawa was around $850 when it was new? (at least out east) For the 350, I think the 250 was around $700. There is one that pops up out here for sale, from time to time, for the same kind of money. Advertised as a "Jawa", I was hoping for an old speedway bike, but it was not to be. The kicker shaft is the weak point (they break regularly). 2) Zundapp pretty neat. I wonder where that one was hiding, as very few German items didn't survive the war, you sure wouldn't have wanted to be seen on one.
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10-24-2009, 04:46 AM	#7
Reveeen Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: orbital platform Posts: 741	In 1973 I bought a brand new Ford van. A "shorty", in black, 302, auto, air, stereo, window delete, as a Ford employee $2200. You have to remember that trucks were cheaper than cars in these years, only becoming more expensive around 1979. I also bought a Ranchero in 1973, again as a Ford employee, 460, 4 gear, the usual other options, $3200. In 1973 I bought a 1970 Pontiac Tempest station wagon (new old stock) with 3 options on the car: ram air IV 455, 4 gear, posi, ordered for only one purpose, and never picked up, I think that one was around $1800. The 350 Jawa had around 20hp, I'm sure the 250 was much less, at the time they couldn't give those bikes away, designed for mass-transit in Communist countries, I'm sure they were dumped here for much needed "hard" currency. The Honda's were nothing special in those years (except the 750, introduced in 1969, for $1600), with their pressed steel/tubing frames. 1973 was the first year (in Canada) for the JPS Norton (I owned one later). You could still buy wwII 45 Harleys (in the crate) in 1973 for $500.
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10-24-2009, 11:45 AM	#8
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	Sound like the China Bike of yesterday :wink: __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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10-24-2009, 09:11 PM	#9
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	i sure like the oldies i think they just have class, and those are 2 good looking examples, but when i started riding one of the first bikes i had was a maico. i wouldnt ride either farther than i could push, but they are pretty. and they say the chinese are junk :P __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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10-24-2009, 10:05 PM	#10
dsrt4 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 267	Heres a good one! http://stlouis.craigslist.org/mcy/1436109495.html
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10-26-2009, 07:40 PM	#11
tokarev Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Safety Harbor Florida USA Posts: 214	cj750 being built in PRC I am having one of the Chang Jiang 750's built in the PRC as I type. Mine will look something like this one with a few added touches. Black pipes, Front turn signals, fog lights......
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10-26-2009, 10:22 PM	#12
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	tokarev, that's a bike I'd really like to have (minus the sidecar). Please give us details as they happen. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-27-2009, 12:42 AM	#13
Dragon Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tejas Posts: 834	What is the top speed of the CJ without sidecar? __________________ Chinabikeless
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10-28-2009, 10:18 PM	#14
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	This price is hard to beat http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/mcy/1435957366.html __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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