05-14-2013, 07:45 PM | #1 |
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Fork Oil
Anyone know the correct fork oil for a Keeway Speed 125- year 2013 and the quantity in each leg?
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05-14-2013, 10:08 PM | #2 |
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i got to ask how did you blow the seals?
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05-15-2013, 12:08 AM | #3 | |
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http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=10266
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05-15-2013, 04:31 AM | #4 |
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Maybe similar to Suzuki EN125-2A
http://www.bike-parts-suz.com/suzuki...hildNavID=2182 Service Manual in Spanish: http://www.4shared.com/get/Y8LWA4la/ |
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05-15-2013, 06:22 AM | #5 |
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Didn't blow the seals just going to drain these, flush them and refill to remove any metal filings left over after machining. I usually do this with a new bike.
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05-15-2013, 06:33 AM | #6 | |
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This means he obviously has never changed fork oil on a Keeway and he has been selling them since 2005!! Am I over the top looking to change fork oil on a new bike? I didn't think so but am open to suggestions. |
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05-15-2013, 06:34 AM | #7 | |
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05-15-2013, 10:01 AM | #8 |
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I think it's important. I wouldn't trust whatever fish oil is in there now.
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05-15-2013, 10:09 AM | #9 |
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meh... i can all ways rebuild the forks later mine are 7 years old 2 years of which it sat out in the weather un ridden and they have never been touched that i know of or the previous owners has knowlage of but to each his own
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05-15-2013, 10:18 AM | #10 |
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It's not about leaks (until they leak); it's about the damping that a quality oil provides, especially in the right quantity. Spud found some high quality oil that is less expensive than so-called fork oil.
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05-15-2013, 12:42 PM | #11 | |
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Unlike Japanese motorcycles, which are designed to carry 150-pound riders, the Chinese bikes are designed to carry heavy loads. Owners of Japanese bikes in occidental countries usually install stiffer springs, et cetera, to beef up the bike's suspension to carry heavier riders. However, the Chinese bikes are built to carry entire families, and huge loads of cargo. Therefore, the Chinese springs are usually very strong, and perfect for larger, occidental riders. Selecting the proper fork oil can greatly improve the ride of you Keyway motorcycle. I certainly encourage you continue with this project.
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05-15-2013, 12:45 PM | #12 |
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If your Chinese forks are typical, I would guess you need about 200cc of fork oil for each fork. As an initial experiment, I suggest you buy a quart of Dexron VI ATF. The inexpensive ATF will give you a good baseline to test the oil's viscosity, and it will also clean your forks very well in the process.
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05-15-2013, 02:51 PM | #13 | |
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Didn't know you could use ATF but if it would clean everything inside, great. I was going to try: http://www.motul.com/fr/en/products/92. I was trying to see, based on my own weight (15 1/2 stone), if this would do as this is what I used on my Jawa 350 and I am very pleased with it. But of course the Jawa has a serious lump of an engine compared to the Keeway. Or maybe I should go for this: http://www.motul.com/fr/en/products/91 Anyway here are pictures of my forks: |
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05-15-2013, 11:54 PM | #14 | |
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Your links didn't lead to a specific fork oil. However, I surmise you are considering these products. Motul Fork Oil Expert Medium 10W http://www.motul.com/us/en-US/produc...%5Brange%5D=21 Motul Fork Oil Expert Medium/Heavy 15W http://www.motul.com/us/en-US/produc...%5Brange%5D=21 Considering the data sheet, I would recommend the 10W fork oil, which has a lower viscosity of 35.9 cSt at 40 degrees Celsius. http://www.motul.com/system/product_...pdf?1301482582 However, I think a good, Dexron VI ATF would have an even better viscosity for your Chinese bike, as well as an even higher viscosity index. Also, the Dexron VI ATF should cost much less than Motul Fork Oil. In addition, you could use the leftover ATF to lubricate your drive chain.
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