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Old 10-23-2018, 11:13 AM   #1
mauricevs   mauricevs is offline
 
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Thank you guys for all the work and effort you have put in to make it possible for beginners to understand the working of the mt05 ecu.

I have a MT05 ecu in my 50cc scooter from Riya motorcycles.
What i noticed is that the ECU in my scooter is a Rongmao MT05 ECU instead of a Delphi MT05... The software for the Delphi works on the Rongmao MT05 as well. Maybe it's a clone or a rebrand.

My scooter has a ECU limited speed (25 km/h) and i am trying to bring it up to 34 km/h.

Unfortunately the manufacturer does not answer on my emails so i am trying to tweak it but as of now, i have no idea where to start...

I used the PCHUD software and managed to increase the IDLE rpm speed using slew outputs.

> Is there a way to find the ID of the max RPM speed so i can use it in a slew element to increase this max?
> Is there a way to store this slew element in the memory of the scooter as well (flashing/remapping)?

I will be glad to keep you up to date about this project


 
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:32 AM   #2
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Thank you guys for all the work and effort you have put in to make it possible for beginners to understand the working of the mt05 ecu.

I have a MT05 ecu in my 50cc scooter from Riya motorcycles.
What i noticed is that the ECU in my scooter is a Rongmao MT05 ECU instead of a Delphi MT05... The software for the Delphi works on the Rongmao MT05 as well. Maybe it's a clone or a rebrand.

My scooter has a ECU limited speed (25 km/h) and i am trying to bring it up to 34 km/h.

Unfortunately the manufacturer does not answer on my emails so i am trying to tweak it but as of now, i have no idea where to start...

I used the PCHUD software and managed to increase the IDLE rpm speed using slew outputs.

> Is there a way to find the ID of the max RPM speed so i can use it in a slew element to increase this max?
> Is there a way to store this slew element in the memory of the scooter as well (flashing/remapping)?

I will be glad to keep you up to date about this project

Have you found a solution yet to adjust the ecu from rongmao? I have the same problem.


 
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:06 PM   #3
mauricevs   mauricevs is offline
 
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Have you found a solution yet to adjust the ecu from rongmao? I have the same problem.
Hi Eddy, yes and no.

Are you trying to adjust the speed limiter from 25 to 34? then i have to disappoint you.

I contacted Rongmao in China yes, i am fluent in Google Translate and asked them if there are any solutions available. They told me the following:

The software that they use to remap the MT05 ECU with specific parameters is not for sale.

They sell devices for 200$ (see picture) that can remap your rongmao MT05 ECU to very specific speed limits:

1. 25KM/H
2. 45KM/H
3. Unlimited KM/H

I really wonder what kind of commands go through the cable though, if only there was a way to sniff that data then maybe we could replicate the process using other values.

I was thinking about a workaround as well, the ecu measures the REV which is a pulse, in theory it would be possible to use a arduino (they are capable of pulse modulation) and program a conversion table for it. Presuming that you would like your scooter to run 34 KM/H and is currently limited to 25 KM/H that would kinda look like this: measured REV example minus 34% and feed the result over REV cable to the ECU. I will come back to this.

And maybe even better: if we could find out if there was a way to use SLEW to temporarily increase the REV limit then in theory it would be possible to inject these SLEW commands over Bluetooth using the ELM337 with a phone.

Please, let correct me if i'm wrong, my knowledge about the subject is still limited compared to other users on this forum
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