Hawk into dirt bike only

dacs57 · 10-28-2017, 10:07 PM

Hello!
I am going to turn Hawk 250 into dirt bike only.
I would like to remove all unnecessary Items like the Electrial and Lights.
I know I will need the CDI but how about the Battery?

Thank's

Adjuster · 10-28-2017, 10:15 PM

If you want to keep the electric start you will of course need the battery. If you are thinking kick start only a simple test is while the bike is running disconnect the battery. If it continues to run then no battery needed. If it immediately dies then the battery is part of the electrical circuit. If the bike does shut down it still may be possible to wire up the circuit to get rid of the battery but that will require a bunch more research.

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dacs57 · 10-28-2017, 10:20 PM

Thank's for your input.I'm thinking the stator will suppy power to the CDI and spark.
I will do the battery disconnect.
Thank's

culcune · 10-28-2017, 11:33 PM

Why do you want to do this? Not to criticize but just curious. The Apollo 250 dirtbike or the Xmoto 250 are distributed by the same company who distribute the Hawk and would probably be better dirt bikes than a Hawk.

www.therps.net

dacs57 · 10-28-2017, 11:45 PM

Hello!
I want to ride on dirt tracks and I have to mutch money invested in the mods and backup electrcal
parts.
So Im just going to ride the hell out of it tell it drops.
I cant get that money back out of it the bike has 300 miles on it,I would lose my investment.
I just bought a new Suzki DR650S for a enduro.

Thank's

dacs57 · 10-29-2017, 12:13 AM

Hello!
I did'nt know about those bike's. I got the Hawk on June 2016.
Just look at the Apollo 250 dirtbike , Xmoto 250 they are not mutch different and the spects are not mutch better,but thank's for asking.

Thank's

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-29-2017, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacs57

Hello!
I want to ride on dirt tracks and I have to mutch money invested in the mods and backup electrcal
parts.
So Im just going to ride the hell out of it tell it drops.
I cant get that money back out of it the bike has 300 miles on it,I would lose my investment.
I just bought a new Suzki DR650S for a enduro.

Thank's

It's always interesting to meet people with so much money that they can afford to throw away the at least $1000.00 dollars that that bike with all of three hundred miles on it will bring, for a whim. Hat's off to you, guy....ARH

culcune · 10-29-2017, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

It's always interesting to meet people with so much money that they can afford to throw away the at least $1000.00 dollars that that bike with all of three hundred miles on it will bring, for a whim. Hat's off to you, guy....ARH

I was under the impression he was buying a new Hawk to convert. Once he answered he already owns the bike, your post makes a lot of sense. I understand the idea of having the DR and a dirt bike because one planned it that way, but selling it 'at a loss' makes more sense than keeping a bike just because...

pistolclass · 10-29-2017, 05:44 PM

still cheaper than buying a new honda rally 250 ecu'ing it and and the other farkels and then trying to sell it.

Money is relative. If you have done decent on the financial side it may not be a big deal.

ARH- You probably meet a bunch of wealthy folks all the time and not even know it. Most with wealth look like you or I.

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-29-2017, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pistolclass

still cheaper than buying a new honda rally 250 ecu'ing it and and the other farkels and then trying to sell it.

Money is relative. If you have done decent on the financial side it may not be a big deal.

ARH- You probably meet a bunch of wealthy folks all the time and not even know it. Most with wealth look like you or I.

Not the arrogant ones, or the Fast Eddie types...ARH

pistolclass · 10-29-2017, 09:29 PM

I've met poor Arrogant and Fast Eddie types, too. Funny thing is here in CT there are plenty of wealthy folks driving a 15 year old Camry with 200,000 miles. Many folks running around in fancy German cars are living paycheck to paycheck. It's not what you make, it is what you save. Put 15% of your income away in quality growth stock mutual funds from your 20's until 65 and you will be wealthy.

Follow this dude:
Dave Ramsey
He follows Christian principles and still can show you a path to wealth.
www.daveramsey.com

dacs57 · 10-30-2017, 01:15 AM

Hello!
I not sure how and why everybody is talking about wealthy folks.
I'm not wealthy but,IF I Was that would be a sign of intelligence and I would not have a cheaply dirt bike" now would I?

Thank's

pete · 10-30-2017, 05:03 AM

Don't know how this thread got so far off track...

the only issue i can see with the hawk as a dirt only bike
apart from bad suspension & grossly under powered is how
long it would last...i think your fun could be short lived..
at the moment the bike has a value you may be better off taking
the loss and finding a good used japper thats built with your
intended use in mined... Not one of the highly strung out MX or enduro bikes
but some thing like a XR250 / TTR250 / DRZ250 are all good low maintainace bikes that
can take abuse for years if looked after...
My dirt only TTR250 has lived it's life on or near the red line for 4 years & still
runs like the day it came off the show room floor...." in fact better but thats another story"
A hawk wouldn't have made the first 6 months under me as this type of
use is useing the hawk so for out side of what it was intended for...

But in saying all ths...your idea of dirt only use and mine may well be completely diffrent...

..

Ariel Red Hunter · 10-30-2017, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dacs57

Hello!
I not sure how and why everybody is talking about wealthy folks.
I'm not wealthy but,IF I Was that would be a sign of intelligence and I would not have a cheaply dirt bike" now would I?

Thank's

Sure you would. That's exactly what an intelligent man would do. You invest as little money as possible in order to see if you like dual-sport motor cycling as much as you think you would. Obviously, you are a quick learner, as you learned everything that Hawk could teach you in 300 miles, spread over two riding season...ARH

pistolclass · 10-30-2017, 11:26 AM

100% Pete.

Most think they want a top of the line ktm mx yet a ttr250 will do everything they are capable of doing. Here in CT ttr250 are super cheap cuz you can't(difficult) tag them and they aren't as sexy as a top of the line Mx bike.

10-28-2017, 10:07 PM	#1
dacs57 Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 30	Hawk into dirt bike only Hello! I am going to turn Hawk 250 into dirt bike only. I would like to remove all unnecessary Items like the Electrial and Lights. I know I will need the CDI but how about the Battery? Thank's
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10-28-2017, 11:33 PM	#4
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Why do you want to do this? Not to criticize but just curious. The Apollo 250 dirtbike or the Xmoto 250 are distributed by the same company who distribute the Hawk and would probably be better dirt bikes than a Hawk. www.therps.net __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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10-30-2017, 05:03 AM	#13
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,261	Don't know how this thread got so far off track... the only issue i can see with the hawk as a dirt only bike apart from bad suspension & grossly under powered is how long it would last...i think your fun could be short lived.. at the moment the bike has a value you may be better off taking the loss and finding a good used japper thats built with your intended use in mined... Not one of the highly strung out MX or enduro bikes but some thing like a XR250 / TTR250 / DRZ250 are all good low maintainace bikes that can take abuse for years if looked after... My dirt only TTR250 has lived it's life on or near the red line for 4 years & still runs like the day it came off the show room floor...." in fact better but thats another story" A hawk wouldn't have made the first 6 months under me as this type of use is useing the hawk so for out side of what it was intended for... But in saying all ths...your idea of dirt only use and mine may well be completely diffrent... .. __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com
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10-28-2017, 10:15 PM	#2
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	If you want to keep the electric start you will of course need the battery. If you are thinking kick start only a simple test is while the bike is running disconnect the battery. If it continues to run then no battery needed. If it immediately dies then the battery is part of the electrical circuit. If the bike does shut down it still may be possible to wire up the circuit to get rid of the battery but that will require a bunch more research. /
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10-28-2017, 10:20 PM	#3
dacs57 Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 30	Thank's for your input.I'm thinking the stator will suppy power to the CDI and spark. I will do the battery disconnect. Thank's
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10-28-2017, 11:45 PM	#5
dacs57 Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 30	Hello! I want to ride on dirt tracks and I have to mutch money invested in the mods and backup electrcal parts. So Im just going to ride the hell out of it tell it drops. I cant get that money back out of it the bike has 300 miles on it,I would lose my investment. I just bought a new Suzki DR650S for a enduro. Thank's
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10-29-2017, 12:13 AM	#6
dacs57 Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 30	Hello! I did'nt know about those bike's. I got the Hawk on June 2016. Just look at the Apollo 250 dirtbike , Xmoto 250 they are not mutch different and the spects are not mutch better,but thank's for asking. Thank's
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10-29-2017, 05:44 PM	#9
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	still cheaper than buying a new honda rally 250 ecu'ing it and and the other farkels and then trying to sell it. Money is relative. If you have done decent on the financial side it may not be a big deal. ARH- You probably meet a bunch of wealthy folks all the time and not even know it. Most with wealth look like you or I.
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10-29-2017, 09:29 PM	#11
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	I've met poor Arrogant and Fast Eddie types, too. Funny thing is here in CT there are plenty of wealthy folks driving a 15 year old Camry with 200,000 miles. Many folks running around in fancy German cars are living paycheck to paycheck. It's not what you make, it is what you save. Put 15% of your income away in quality growth stock mutual funds from your 20's until 65 and you will be wealthy. Follow this dude: Dave Ramsey He follows Christian principles and still can show you a path to wealth. www.daveramsey.com
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10-30-2017, 01:15 AM	#12
dacs57 Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 30	Hello! I not sure how and why everybody is talking about wealthy folks. I'm not wealthy but,IF I Was that would be a sign of intelligence and I would not have a cheaply dirt bike" now would I? Thank's
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10-30-2017, 11:26 AM	#15
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	100% Pete. Most think they want a top of the line ktm mx yet a ttr250 will do everything they are capable of doing. Here in CT ttr250 are super cheap cuz you can't(difficult) tag them and they aren't as sexy as a top of the line Mx bike.
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