Hawk Gear indicator problem

Bill1 · 11-13-2017, 02:50 PM

I finally installed my digital cluster for the Hawk and I am missing the 5th gear indicator. I jumpered to the new harness and the new cluster and harness work fine (When the bike is in 4th and I jumper from the 4th gear wire on the bike harness to 5th in cluster harness, the new cluster says 5th).
But when I try to jumper the 5th gear wire from the bike harness to any of the pins on the cluster harness, I get nothing.

All of the other gears and neutral work fine.

How hard is it to get to the gear indicator sending unit?

Bill1 · 11-13-2017, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill1

I finally installed my digital cluster for the Hawk and I am missing the 5th gear indicator. I jumpered to the new harness and the new cluster and harness work fine (When the bike is in 4th and I jumper from the 4th gear wire on the bike harness to 5th in cluster harness, the new cluster says 5th).
But when I try to jumper the 5th gear wire from the bike harness to any of the pins on the cluster harness, I get nothing.

All of the other gears and neutral work fine.

How hard is it to get to the gear indicator sending unit?

Nevermind... with everything put back together, it's now fixed.
Either the ribbon cable from the transmission to the harness was pinched by the housing and wiggling it helped, or it was just magic.

Regardless, I am good to go now.

bogieboy · 11-13-2017, 04:49 PM

Pull the sprocket cover, look for a round black plastic thing sitting infront of/below the sprocket.... remove one bolt and its off....

pete · 11-15-2017, 02:02 AM

really can't see the issue....
gear indicator is not needed....
the best way is to listen to the motor...
surprising how much feed back the bike will give you..

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pistolclass · 11-15-2017, 07:07 AM

Neither are cup holders in cars but us Americans insist on cars with no less than 10.

Ariel Red Hunter · 11-15-2017, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pete

really can't see the issue....
gear indicator is not needed....
the best way is to listen to the motor...
surprising how much feed back the bike will give you..

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Can I get an Amen to that statement, brothers and sisters!

Megadan · 11-15-2017, 04:09 PM

Needed or not, some of us want things to function, even if we ignore them.

Ariel Red Hunter · 11-15-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan

Needed or not, some of us want things to function, even if we ignore them.

I know what you mean. Our statements are for the guys who develop gut twisting angst over trivialities. Like the guy who ran two different columns on here asking jet recommendations that a bunch of us answered multiple times. A speedometer that works is a handy thing to have, upon occasion. In fact, I've got a brand new Smith's Chronometric speedo head just waiting for me to get a Hawk to see if I can make it work on it. ....ARH

pistolclass · 11-15-2017, 09:03 PM

I know I'm not riding god and I can't yet channel my inner feng shui with my machine but I kinda like the gear indicator. My bikes in the 80's never had it, but my buddy got a gs550 ( I think) and it had it. I thought it was cool. I do like it telling me, hey dummy you are in 5, stop trying to upshift, there aint no more.

**JerryHawk250** · 11-16-2017, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pistolclass

I know I'm not riding god and I can't yet channel my inner feng shui with my machine but I kinda like the gear indicator. My bikes in the 80's never had it, but my buddy got a gs550 ( I think) and it had it. I thought it was cool. I do like it telling me, hey dummy you are in 5, stop trying to upshift, there aint no more.

My 6th gear indicator isn't working. What should I do?

I like glance down to make sure i'm in 1st. I've had a few times were it only downshift to 2nd. That will scare the crap out of you pulling out into traffic and having to try to shift it to 1st before you get creamed by on coming traffic.

Sport Rider · 11-16-2017, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

My 6th gear indicator isn't working. What should I do?

I like glance down to make sure i'm in 1st. I've had a few times were it only downshift to 2nd. That will scare the crap out of you pulling out into traffic and having to try to shift it to 1st before you get creamed by on coming traffic.

I'm in the middle of a project to re-cut and grind new transmission internals for the hawk that will give it a 6th gear.

nah....not really.

Ariel Red Hunter · 11-16-2017, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

My 6th gear indicator isn't working. What should I do?

I like glance down to make sure i'm in 1st. I've had a few times were it only downshift to 2nd. That will scare the crap out of you pulling out into traffic and having to try to shift it to 1st before you get creamed by on coming traffic.

I hope you are joking about looking down to see if it is in first gear. For those who don't know, the shift lever always returns to the detent position after each shift is made. And you should always down shift to nuetral as you come to a stop if you have to wait, like for a light to change. If it's like at a stop sign, with no cross traffic, shift all the way down to first, and go. If it doesn't want to go in first, just rock the bike forwards and backwards while pressing down on the shift lever. It will go into first as soon as the gears line up

....ARH

timcosby · 11-16-2017, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

My 6th gear indicator isn't working. What should I do?

I like glance down to make sure i'm in 1st. I've had a few times were it only downshift to 2nd. That will scare the crap out of you pulling out into traffic and having to try to shift it to 1st before you get creamed by on coming traffic.

if you downshift while still rolling you will hear the first gear. it makes a diff noise than the rest.

Ariel Red Hunter · 11-16-2017, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pistolclass

I know I'm not riding god and I can't yet channel my inner feng shui with my machine but I kinda like the gear indicator. My bikes in the 80's never had it, but my buddy got a gs550 ( I think) and it had it. I thought it was cool. I do like it telling me, hey dummy you are in 5, stop trying to upshift, there aint no more.

Geez, pistolclass. Some how I had the feeling you were more mechanically inclined than that. I'm heartbroken and on the verge of tears upon finding out these factoids...

...ARH

pete · 11-17-2017, 06:08 AM

the easy way to find 1st while stoped is...
just keep slight pressure on the gear lever & let the clutch out slowly till it go in...

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11-13-2017, 02:50 PM	#1
Bill1 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: FL Posts: 95	Hawk Gear indicator problem I finally installed my digital cluster for the Hawk and I am missing the 5th gear indicator. I jumpered to the new harness and the new cluster and harness work fine (When the bike is in 4th and I jumper from the 4th gear wire on the bike harness to 5th in cluster harness, the new cluster says 5th). But when I try to jumper the 5th gear wire from the bike harness to any of the pins on the cluster harness, I get nothing. All of the other gears and neutral work fine. How hard is it to get to the gear indicator sending unit? __________________ 2016 RPS Hawk 250, exhaust, Uni Filter, Mikuni VM-26 clone w/ 120 main & 30 pilot, MSR shifter, 17/45 sprockets, JT chain, digital cluster...
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11-15-2017, 02:02 AM	#4
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,261	really can't see the issue.... gear indicator is not needed.... the best way is to listen to the motor... surprising how much feed back the bike will give you.. .. __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com
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11-17-2017, 06:08 AM	#15
pete Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: ChCh , NZ Posts: 2,261	the easy way to find 1st while stoped is... just keep slight pressure on the gear lever & let the clutch out slowly till it go in... .. .. __________________ 09 XT660R ... 06 TTR250 ... 80 Montesa H6 125 Enduro... 77 Montesa Cota 348 MRR "Malcom Rathnell Replica"... Current resto projects.. 81 Honda CT110... 80 Kawasaki KL250A1... 11 Husaburg TE125 enduro... "sold" along with another 31... Lifan 125 Pitbike.. "stolen" ... KIWI BIKER FORUM...... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php All the best offroad rides in NZ... http://www.remotemoto.com/ E-mail... xtpete1@gmail.com
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11-13-2017, 04:49 PM	#3
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,044	Pull the sprocket cover, look for a round black plastic thing sitting infront of/below the sprocket.... remove one bolt and its off....
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11-15-2017, 07:07 AM	#5
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	Neither are cup holders in cars but us Americans insist on cars with no less than 10.
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11-15-2017, 09:03 PM	#9
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	I know I'm not riding god and I can't yet channel my inner feng shui with my machine but I kinda like the gear indicator. My bikes in the 80's never had it, but my buddy got a gs550 ( I think) and it had it. I thought it was cool. I do like it telling me, hey dummy you are in 5, stop trying to upshift, there aint no more.
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