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Old 01-30-2023, 12:55 PM   #16
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I really just want a 350-450cc dual sport.
Something like my Templar but with 30-40 horse.
These ADV bikes just look to big for my tastes.
Aesthetically pleasing though.
That's exactly why I bought the DRZ. After both the RX3's, and the V-Strom, I realized I didn't need (or want) all that Tupperware, baggage, storage and additional weight. I got really tired of stripping hunks of plastic off just for normal maintenance. I just don't ride that far or long anymore. Four hours out is an average day.
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Old 10-02-2023, 09:20 AM   #17
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So I got an update on EPA approval on the KPT 400. Looks like they finally got everything worked out. I'm being told they will be available March/April 2024.
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Old 10-21-2023, 05:02 AM   #18
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Jerry, what is the weight on the kpt400?
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Old 10-21-2023, 07:09 AM   #19
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Jerry, what is the weight on the kpt400?
Who is the importer ?
About 495 lbs. American Lifan is the importer and will be sold through dealers like Venommotorsports.
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Old 11-03-2023, 02:24 PM   #20
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I can't wait. lol Link To Video
https://jerryhawk250.com/wp-content/.../11/KPT400.mp4
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Old 11-03-2023, 03:08 PM   #21
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too heavy for me I reckon. I've fallen once and almost a couple of times trying to turn around on crappy roads. maybe once I get better at riding, but man it looks heavy!
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Old 11-03-2023, 03:10 PM   #22
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too heavy for me I reckon. I've fallen once and almost a couple of times trying to turn around on crappy roads. maybe once I get better at riding, but man it looks heavy!
It weighs the same as my Vulcan S. The Vulcan S feels light.
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Old 11-06-2023, 09:47 PM   #23
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Jerry, I don't see it on the epa list? Now this list apparently from August, so if in testing right now that would explain its absence.
https://www.epa.gov/system/files/doc...6-present.xlsx


 
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:58 PM   #24
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About 495 lbs.
Holllllllly
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Old 11-07-2023, 05:52 AM   #25
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I must be the only one to think, "Oh HELL NO!". That bike looks ugly AND top heavy. Somebody spiked the designer's coffee with LSD. I think they're first offering in this size should be a more traditional design, then offer something wild like this the following year.
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Old 02-09-2024, 01:32 AM   #26
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I must be the only one to think, "Oh HELL NO!". That bike looks ugly AND top heavy. Somebody spiked the designer's coffee with LSD. I think they're first offering in this size should be a more traditional design, then offer something wild like this the following year.
That's the best part.. it looks like an old Honda scooter, or a Pan America from Wish lol.
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Old 02-09-2024, 07:27 AM   #27
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Add some gear into the luggage and fill'er up and you are looking at 600 lbs, plus your weight. Gee.
That seems on the heavy side for adventure sport, isn't it? And the weight is high centered. I don't think I could pick it up
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Old 02-09-2024, 08:05 AM   #28
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Why is everyone freaking out about the weight? What are you comparing it to? Looks like it falls into the same weight class.

Kpt 400 - 495 lbs with luggage
Yamaha TÉNÉRÉ 700-452 lbs + luggage
V-Strom 650-528 lb. including Luggage
VERSYS 650 LT 482.9 lb* + luggage
AFRICA TWIN -505 lbs + luggage
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Old 02-09-2024, 01:24 PM   #29
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Don't get me wrong. I am sure it is great as a road bike, perfect for light touring and some forest roads.
The vertical twin engine looks like fun, and the bike is loaded with features.
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Old 04-14-2024, 06:53 AM   #30
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I must be the only one to think, "Oh HELL NO!". That bike looks ugly AND top heavy. Somebody spiked the designer's coffee with LSD. I think they're first offering in this size should be a more traditional design, then offer something wild like this the following year.
I like it, lol, it looks like something Robocop would ride.
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