Motocross/Track-worthy Chonda?

AJ22_ChinaRider · 12-31-2022, 11:47 PM

Hiya there, Experts! (Compared to my limited dirt/track knowledge, anyone qualifies to be one

)

Which Chonda would make a good entry/moderate level motorcross/dirt track-able vehicle?

I've ZERO dirt/offroad experience, so it'd be limited to short straight line jumps, basic obstacle courses, slowish rhythm sections etc.,

Planning to get one within the month, so I can practice basic routines, balancing etc., or attend some dirt bike skills camps and be ready by Summer. *Please* share your inputs and guide me

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Thanks in advance, and a Happy, Safe, Fun, Adventure-filled New Year to everyone!!

TominMO · 01-01-2023, 09:07 AM

So three strategies. I'm a total offroad noob myself so I can't talk about specific bikes, just goals.

$
Buy something cheap to learn on and that you can beat up without too much remorse. Then move up to $$ or $$$.

$$
Spend a bit more to get something you can upgrade or is good enough as is for both a complete beginner and someone moderately experienced. Perhaps the most practical option for most people.

$$$
Buy once, cry once. Get the bike you want to end up with. Cheapest option in the long run, because you only bought one bike.

franque · 01-01-2023, 09:49 AM

Only thing I would trust would be a GPX for that kind of work, but the suspension would need to be completely reworked. Some might say Orion, but the owner strikes me as a bit too defensive, and perhaps he's overcompensating for the quality of his product/after-sales support, which is typical Chonda, which is to say, not good. GPX has great customer support and great quality, you just pay more than the other Chinese brands.

Boatguy · 01-01-2023, 01:12 PM

None. These bikes are more like tractors. They are not going to perform at all for your intended use. They weigh too much. The suspension isn’t good enough. The power isn’t there half the time.

This is not a good use for any of the current bikes.

I think it would be really nice if they made one, but they just haven’t done that yet.

I would stick to the same types of bikes you see other people using in motocross.

Like these:

https://www.dirtrider.com/story/test...tocross-bikes/

I realize they are extremely expensive. So used might be the way to go.

TominMO · 01-01-2023, 02:14 PM

There are some models of various brands in the 125cc and 140cc class which have upgraded and adjustable suspension and larger wheels, i.e. 17" front and 14" rear.

For example:
https://www.lincolnpowersports.com/N...02117?ref=list

AJ22_ChinaRider · 01-01-2023, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TominMO

So three strategies. I'm a total offroad noob myself so I can't talk about specific bikes, just goals.

$
Buy something cheap to learn on and that you can beat up without too much remorse. Then move up to $$ or $$$.

$$
Spend a bit more to get something you can upgrade or is good enough as is for both a complete beginner and someone moderately experienced. Perhaps the most practical option for most people.

$$$
Buy once, cry once. Get the bike you want to end up with. Cheapest option in the long run, because you only bought one bike.

Love this!!!

AJ22_ChinaRider · 01-01-2023, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by franque

Only thing I would trust would be a GPX for that kind of work, but the suspension would need to be completely reworked. Some might say Orion, but the owner strikes me as a bit too defensive, and perhaps he's overcompensating for the quality of his product/after-sales support, which is typical Chonda, which is to say, not good. GPX has great customer support and great quality, you just pay more than the other Chinese brands.

Got it, thank you!
I'll have to borrow my friend's GPX and test drive it and get a feel for it

I notice that the GPXs aren't exactly in the lower price spectrum, so I believe I have to commit to it and look at it as a longer term bike.

AJ22_ChinaRider · 01-01-2023, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Boatguy

None. These bikes are more like tractors. They are not going to perform at all for your intended use. They weigh too much. The suspension isn’t good enough. The power isn’t there half the time.

I believe you're 100% on the spot here!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boatguy

This is not a good use for any of the current bikes.

I think it would be really nice if they made one, but they just haven’t done that yet.

I would stick to the same types of bikes you see other people using in motocross.

Like these:

https://www.dirtrider.com/story/test...tocross-bikes/

I realize they are extremely expensive. So used might be the way to go

Will take a look at these... until then I'll have to get my skills up and try more off-roading

AJ22_ChinaRider · 01-01-2023, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TominMO

There are some models of various brands in the 125cc and 140cc class which have upgraded and adjustable suspension and larger wheels, i.e. 17" front and 14" rear.

For example:
https://www.lincolnpowersports.com/N...02117?ref=list

SSR's very popular...probably good dealer support as well

Fast_Freddy · 01-21-2023, 12:09 AM

AJ22_ChinaRider · 01-22-2023, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddy

Ooh! ty for the find

AJ22_ChinaRider · 01-22-2023, 09:50 PM

Did the Kayo later become GPX?

Fast_Freddy · 01-22-2023, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ22_ChinaRider

Did the Kayo later become GPX?

No idea but both brands bikes look very competent.

rj133 · 01-28-2023, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ22_ChinaRider

Did the Kayo later become GPX?

Kayo and GPX are separate companies .

Falkon45 · 01-28-2023, 07:10 PM

Kayo is top of the like china bike. About as close as you can get to KTM without buying a KTM/ Gas Gas/ Husqvarna. Possibly the best suspension out of the china bikes listed.

GPX... just the Kayo bikes at a cheaper margin... but a seemingly higher price. Odd.

SSR... Probably the lowest spec'd of the bunch, but also the most popular.

All of them are pretty beginner friendly.

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AJ22_ChinaRider Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 105	Motocross/Track-worthy Chonda? Hiya there, Experts! (Compared to my limited dirt/track knowledge, anyone qualifies to be one ) Which Chonda would make a good entry/moderate level motorcross/dirt track-able vehicle? I've ZERO dirt/offroad experience, so it'd be limited to short straight line jumps, basic obstacle courses, slowish rhythm sections etc., Planning to get one within the month, so I can practice basic routines, balancing etc., or attend some dirt bike skills camps and be ready by Summer. Please share your inputs and guide me . Thanks in advance, and a Happy, Safe, Fun, Adventure-filled New Year to everyone!!
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TominMO Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: De Soto, MO Posts: 1,869	So three strategies. I'm a total offroad noob myself so I can't talk about specific bikes, just goals. $ Buy something cheap to learn on and that you can beat up without too much remorse. Then move up to $$ or $$$. $$ Spend a bit more to get something you can upgrade or is good enough as is for both a complete beginner and someone moderately experienced. Perhaps the most practical option for most people. $$$ Buy once, cry once. Get the bike you want to end up with. Cheapest option in the long run, because you only bought one bike. __________________ 2021 Lifan Xpect--sold 2022 Lifan KPX 1972 Honda CT90--The Carrot 1969 Honda CT90--The Tomahto Cheesy is the WDK (workplace drama king). Now retired. Nope, back in the saddle. Climate: The Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24fWmNA6lM How our government really works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjadCd0VRBw Question all authority.....think for yourself
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Boatguy Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northeast Posts: 929	None. These bikes are more like tractors. They are not going to perform at all for your intended use. They weigh too much. The suspension isn’t good enough. The power isn’t there half the time. This is not a good use for any of the current bikes. I think it would be really nice if they made one, but they just haven’t done that yet. I would stick to the same types of bikes you see other people using in motocross. Like these: https://www.dirtrider.com/story/test...tocross-bikes/ I realize they are extremely expensive. So used might be the way to go. __________________ 2020 Lifan x-pect
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01-01-2023, 02:14 PM	#5
TominMO Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: De Soto, MO Posts: 1,869	There are some models of various brands in the 125cc and 140cc class which have upgraded and adjustable suspension and larger wheels, i.e. 17" front and 14" rear. For example: https://www.lincolnpowersports.com/N...02117?ref=list __________________ 2021 Lifan Xpect--sold 2022 Lifan KPX 1972 Honda CT90--The Carrot 1969 Honda CT90--The Tomahto Cheesy is the WDK (workplace drama king). Now retired. Nope, back in the saddle. Climate: The Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24fWmNA6lM How our government really works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjadCd0VRBw Question all authority.....think for yourself
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franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	Only thing I would trust would be a GPX for that kind of work, but the suspension would need to be completely reworked. Some might say Orion, but the owner strikes me as a bit too defensive, and perhaps he's overcompensating for the quality of his product/after-sales support, which is typical Chonda, which is to say, not good. GPX has great customer support and great quality, you just pay more than the other Chinese brands.
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AJ22_ChinaRider Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 105	Did the Kayo later become GPX?
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01-28-2023, 07:10 PM	#15
Falkon45 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 759	Kayo is top of the like china bike. About as close as you can get to KTM without buying a KTM/ Gas Gas/ Husqvarna. Possibly the best suspension out of the china bikes listed. GPX... just the Kayo bikes at a cheaper margin... but a seemingly higher price. Odd. SSR... Probably the lowest spec'd of the bunch, but also the most popular. All of them are pretty beginner friendly.
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