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Old 06-25-2016, 09:20 PM   #31
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D'oh!

You let the cat out of the bag, pcspecialist It's just fun showing up at the tracks with SuperTech, you get a lot of talk, WALMART!...
If it has the certs, it works. I use the super tech syn cause it's cheap, does this make me a bad person?

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Old 06-25-2016, 09:23 PM   #32
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You know i have been in the shop all afternoon organizing and had a flashback, i used to have a mid 90's Polaris Explorer 300 ATV that was air cooled but it had a fan on it as well to cool it down. It was a noisy stinky 2 stroke lol. Like my 800 Sportsman MUCH better!


 
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:26 PM   #33
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If it has the certs, it works. I use the super tech syn cause it's cheap, does this make me a bad person?

Well, if you're an actual cost cutter/saver that disqualifies you for govt. employment :(
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:27 PM   #34
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If it has the certs, it works. I use the super tech syn cause it's cheap, does this make me a bad person?


I haven't stepped foot in a Walmart in a long time. 25 checkouts and 2 open, Nobody knows jack chit and i hate they ran the good Mom & Pops out of town.........


 
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:54 PM   #35
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The owners manual for my Lifan (CG200) says "Do not add extra cooling equipment to the engine." No idea why. Seems like a good idea for hot climates.


 
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:52 PM   #36
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The owners manual for my Lifan (CG200) says "Do not add extra cooling equipment to the engine." No idea why. Seems like a good idea for hot climates.
Traditional extra cooling equipment in southeast asia means small drip of water fed by gravity to head... This shit results in uneven temperature which shorten metal's longevity
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Super Tech is rebranded quaker state and exxon/mobil.
Around my area 'Super Tech Oil' can be Exxon/Mobil but usually it's packaged by Warren Distribution (Warren Oil Company from Nebraska, makes MAG 1 and several other brands)

Whoever Super Tech is packaged by, it is usually good stuff for the price... use the word "inexpensive" instead of cheap... cheap refers to the 'quality' of a product

http://www.warrendistribution.com/brands

http://www.pqiamerica.com/SupertechApril2010.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/supertech.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/May%202013/supertech.htm
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:01 AM   #38
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I think a filter on the crankcase breather is a good idea. But I didn't know that these engines had no check valves in the crankcase breather. If so, that surprises me. It used to be common practice to reduce air pumping losses by allowing air to only leave the crankcase, not come back in.
A PCV Valve will fix that problem forgot what one I used, but I had it sitting in a box for a while... could be to a number of vehicles... I have worked on a lot of them over the years
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Old 06-26-2016, 06:27 AM   #39
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Interesting.

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Yeah, that's right. A PCV valve is a great solution. May have to change to a more rigid hose too. Or use a short piece of rigid hose at the cranckase, plug in the PCV, and use the original hose from there on out.
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:15 PM   #41
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From what I've heard SuperTech oil comes from different manufacturers depending on location. Walmart carries a book showing the manufacturers of all their house brand stuff. Last I checked, been a few years, their oil was Quaker State and the filters were Champion labs. My walmart stopped having SuperTech filters a few years ago, I was bummed. I assume they've stopped all together and it's not just my local store.

I've run lots of bikes on 15-40 from my old air cooled turbo bike to modern sport bikes. My '97 CBR1100XX with it's 9 plate clutch got a little notchy shifting once warm, but the later 7 plate bikes do fine.


 
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:05 PM   #42
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my understanding was that walmart has periodic bidding wars from a number of manufacturers- they put out the specs and low bidder gets a time certain contract, rinse repeat. they make the mfg's fight it out for market share. brutal business technique but old sam cut CUT EVERYONE to the bone...
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:18 PM   #43
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my understanding was that walmart has periodic bidding wars from a number of manufacturers- they put out the specs and low bidder gets a time certain contract, rinse repeat. they make the mfg's fight it out for market share. brutal business technique but old sam cut CUT EVERYONE to the bone...
Your right, saw an old 60 minuets or something where walm have the product sales reps. In small plain rooms with table and chairs and "cross examine " them and pound them in to submission for their terms. Sounds like good advise for the federal government.
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Your right, saw an old 60 minuets or something where walm have the product sales reps. In small plain rooms with table and chairs and "cross examine " them and pound them in to submission for their terms. Sounds like good advise for the federal government.


Saw that too and that was the start of me not doing business with them.......


 
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my understanding was that walmart has periodic bidding wars from a number of manufacturers- they put out the specs and low bidder gets a time certain contract, rinse repeat. they make the mfg's fight it out for market share. brutal business technique but old sam cut CUT EVERYONE to the bone...
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