hawk250 Clutch Springs?

hnu13 · 12-15-2016, 10:00 AM

anyone know the specs of the clutch springs for the Hawk 250??? are they interchangeable with another dual sport??? I'm looking to try out some stiffer ones.

Weldangrind · 12-15-2016, 12:07 PM

It depends on the number of springs in your clutch pack. I suspect that something like Barnett clutch springs will do the trick, but you might need to buy two packs to get the quantity you need. XR200 clutches use four springs, but I suspect that your Hawk uses five or six. I don't know if the diameter is the same.

Weldangrind · 12-15-2016, 12:08 PM

The image in this eBay listing shows six springs in the package: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CSK-Clutch-S...dYCCrh&vxp=mtr Reach out to the seller to confirm.

Ariel Red Hunter · 12-15-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hnu13

anyone know the specs of the clutch springs for the Hawk 250??? are they interchangeable with another dual sport??? I'm looking to try out some stiffer ones.

What problems are you having with your clutch now?

hnu13 · 12-15-2016, 04:25 PM

No problems. Just want it to grab a little harder. Setting it up to learn how to stunt...
My friend put in 3 stiffer slings and left 3 stock on his Honda Grom, and he can now clutch it up in 3rd gear..

humanbeing · 12-15-2016, 07:39 PM

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...but I suspect that your Hawk uses five or six...

6. As http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...237#post234237

wilserchinarider · 12-16-2016, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hnu13

No problems. Just want it to grab a little harder. Setting it up to learn how to stunt...
My friend put in 3 stiffer slings and left 3 stock on his Honda Grom, and he can now clutch it up in 3rd gear..

The stock clutch on my Hawk seems plenty adequate and stronger than the motor, if "clutch it up in 3rd gear" means to wheelie the bike using the awesome power of the CG motor you may be optimistic.

Clutching it up on lighter smaller Grom is more about shifting your own weight i would think....

Ariel Red Hunter · 12-16-2016, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wilserchinarider

The stock clutch on my Hawk seems plenty adequate and stronger than the motor, if "clutch it up in 3rd gear" means to wheelie the bike using the awesome power of the CG motor you may be optimistic.

Clutching it up on lighter smaller Grom is more about shifting your own weight i would think....

And the easiest way to shift your weight on a Hawk in order to loft the front wheel is to move your feet to the passenger foot pegs. Depending on how tall you are, you may find it to be easier with more pulled back bars, in addition.

Weldangrind · 12-16-2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by humanbeing

6. As http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...237#post234237

Thanks HB. You have a memory like a steel trap!

timcosby · 12-16-2016, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wilserchinarider

The stock clutch on my Hawk seems plenty adequate and stronger than the motor, if "clutch it up in 3rd gear" means to wheelie the bike using the awesome power of the CG motor you may be optimistic.

Clutching it up on lighter smaller Grom is more about shifting your own weight i would think....

mine will wheelie in third no problem till i went to a 17 tooth front spocket now its just 2nd. i think i could get it up in third now with some technique.

timcosby · 12-16-2016, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hnu13

No problems. Just want it to grab a little harder. Setting it up to learn how to stunt...
My friend put in 3 stiffer slings and left 3 stock on his Honda Grom, and he can now clutch it up in 3rd gear..

easier way is to get it into third let off throttle let front forks compress then full throttle puuling up with your hands......off you go

hertz9753 · 12-16-2016, 11:26 PM

Is this the new wheelie thread?

I think he is riding a 1981 Kawasaki KX250 in that video. I saw Doug when he was riding KDX175 in the Joie Chitwood Thrill Show or Stunt Show because son was running it at that time. Doug could scrape the dirt with his rear fender.

'16 TT250 · 12-16-2016, 11:58 PM

If the clutch isn't slipping stiffer springs won't help you wheelie it. Wheelies are more about the rider than the ride, learn to work with the machine you have.

If when you dump the clutch the revs don't come down quickly then maybe you have use for springs. Getting the clutch to bite harder than normal might actually hurt your wheelie endeavors and will certainly hurt the various parts that are being shock loaded.

Weldangrind · 12-17-2016, 12:09 PM

I can see stiffer springs as a benefit if you're at your football weight, like I am. Too much mass can overcome weaker springs and allow the discs to slip.

hnu13 · 12-17-2016, 04:59 PM

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Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	It depends on the number of springs in your clutch pack. I suspect that something like Barnett clutch springs will do the trick, but you might need to buy two packs to get the quantity you need. XR200 clutches use four springs, but I suspect that your Hawk uses five or six. I don't know if the diameter is the same. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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12-15-2016, 12:08 PM	#3
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The image in this eBay listing shows six springs in the package: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CSK-Clutch-S...dYCCrh&vxp=mtr Reach out to the seller to confirm. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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12-16-2016, 11:26 PM	#12
hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	Is this the new wheelie thread? I think he is riding a 1981 Kawasaki KX250 in that video. I saw Doug when he was riding KDX175 in the Joie Chitwood Thrill Show or Stunt Show because son was running it at that time. Doug could scrape the dirt with his rear fender. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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12-17-2016, 12:09 PM	#14
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I can see stiffer springs as a benefit if you're at your football weight, like I am. Too much mass can overcome weaker springs and allow the discs to slip. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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12-15-2016, 04:25 PM	#5
hnu13 Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 66	No problems. Just want it to grab a little harder. Setting it up to learn how to stunt... My friend put in 3 stiffer slings and left 3 stock on his Honda Grom, and he can now clutch it up in 3rd gear..
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12-16-2016, 11:58 PM	#13
'16 TT250 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Hacienda Heights, Ca Posts: 281	If the clutch isn't slipping stiffer springs won't help you wheelie it. Wheelies are more about the rider than the ride, learn to work with the machine you have. If when you dump the clutch the revs don't come down quickly then maybe you have use for springs. Getting the clutch to bite harder than normal might actually hurt your wheelie endeavors and will certainly hurt the various parts that are being shock loaded.
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12-17-2016, 04:59 PM	#15
hnu13 Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 66
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