Tw200 ?

Thumper · 05-31-2023, 06:27 PM

The TW200 is a little tractor. It is not a performer, but if you need to get there and it isn't paved, the thing is like a horse.

So... what is the closest substitute from all of the Chinese brands? I mean real 18" fat tire knobby front, and big fat 14" rear tire

Maybe it doesn't exist. I know there are smaller wheeled versions. Yamaha has successfully locked in this market.

Bruces · 05-31-2023, 06:44 PM

Sky team v raptor ,also the Suzuki van van has always been popular in Europe ,I bet there is a clone of it over there which would be a similar bike .

Thumper · 05-31-2023, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruces

Sky team v raptor ,also the Suzuki van van has always been popular in Europe ,I bet there is a clone of it over there which would be a similar bike .

Available used. How about new, today, Chinese bike?

XLsior · 05-31-2023, 07:05 PM

The only known competitor to the fat rear agricultural bike is the Suzuki Van Van...

the Tdub is more offroad oriented...the vanvan more onroad...

As for the question are there china clones of either? not that I'm aware of.

Thumper · 05-31-2023, 07:13 PM

Shame. The TW200 is like the mature grown up descendent of Honda Z50A mini trail. It sez "get there". The TW200 sez "get there" in comfort.
Tragic absence. The market generally abhores a vacuum, but the vacuum must be recognized first!

letsride · 06-01-2023, 02:21 AM

Agreed Yamaha has that market sewed up. Honda used to make one as well the TR200 Fat Cat. But they quit with it. I would love to have a T dub but people are proud of them and they hold their value, a good used one would cost me more than my KPX cost me. I think if a Chinese company jumped on this they would clean up here in the U.S. A fat tire, low seat height, small displacement, street legal Dual Sport would do well I think. I see the seat height of these Chinese Dual Sports turn some folks away. Heck even I have to put my left foot on the foot peg to get my old arse on the KPX. LOL

**JerryHawk250** · 06-01-2023, 07:54 AM

My neighbor had one and sold it a few years ago. I told him I wanted it if he ever decided to sell it. I guess he forgot. That bike was in mint condition. I've only saw him ride it a hand full of times.

2LZ · 06-01-2023, 12:46 PM

The old Zong Sierra was a stubby-tired bike. Probably the closest thing China ever built to the T-Dub. Took the same motor too, if I recall correctly. Spud documented the heck out of that bike. I wish they were still available.

Thumper · 06-01-2023, 05:03 PM

Well, The Yammie is available all over the country for ~$3800 used to $5500 new. $4000 will get you a low miles cream puff. But what else could I buy for that kind of money? Lots more! A Chinese version for $2500 would get scooped up.

**JerryHawk250** · 06-01-2023, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruces

Sky team v raptor ,also the Suzuki van van has always been popular in Europe ,I bet there is a clone of it over there which would be a similar bike .

Still available. Now we just need to get someone to import them.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...44a66a2ecst0Ho

nobade · 06-02-2023, 11:47 AM

Well, these are kinda sorta like a TW. Tires aren't as big but smaller diameter than normal dirt bikes.
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250x.php

2LZ · 06-02-2023, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nobade

Well, these are kinda sorta like a TW. Tires aren't as big but smaller diameter than normal dirt bikes.
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250x.php

An excellent bike.

culcune · 06-02-2023, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

The old Zong Sierra was a stubby-tired bike. Probably the closest thing China ever built to the T-Dub. Took the same motor too, if I recall correctly. Spud documented the heck out of that bike. I wish they were still available.

Yes! The Sierra (also rebadged under 2 other companies here) cloned the engine of the TW200. Spud is sorely missed from here with his TW200, and later, CSC RX3 threads. Anyone know what happened?

culcune · 06-02-2023, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nobade

Well, these are kinda sorta like a TW. Tires aren't as big but smaller diameter than normal dirt bikes.
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250x.php

Yep

As close to a TW200 or Zongshen Sierra as we are going to get, if you don't mind having a Suzuki-cloned engine...

2LZ · 06-03-2023, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

Yes! The Sierra (also rebadged under 2 other companies here) cloned the engine of the TW200. Spud is sorely missed from here with his TW200, and later, CSC RX3 threads. Anyone know what happened?

Spud ended up buying the Kawalski Versys 300 and riding off into the sunset. He did have some hard failures with his RX3 (it was a super early one) and I think this was the catalyst to get him to graduate.
Yes, he and may other China Rider icons are sorely missed.

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Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,360	Tw200 ? The TW200 is a little tractor. It is not a performer, but if you need to get there and it isn't paved, the thing is like a horse. So... what is the closest substitute from all of the Chinese brands? I mean real 18" fat tire knobby front, and big fat 14" rear tire Maybe it doesn't exist. I know there are smaller wheeled versions. Yamaha has successfully locked in this market. __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it
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05-31-2023, 07:13 PM	#5
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,360	Shame. The TW200 is like the mature grown up descendent of Honda Z50A mini trail. It sez "get there". The TW200 sez "get there" in comfort. Tragic absence. The market generally abhores a vacuum, but the vacuum must be recognized first! __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it
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letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 835	Agreed Yamaha has that market sewed up. Honda used to make one as well the TR200 Fat Cat. But they quit with it. I would love to have a T dub but people are proud of them and they hold their value, a good used one would cost me more than my KPX cost me. I think if a Chinese company jumped on this they would clean up here in the U.S. A fat tire, low seat height, small displacement, street legal Dual Sport would do well I think. I see the seat height of these Chinese Dual Sports turn some folks away. Heck even I have to put my left foot on the foot peg to get my old arse on the KPX. LOL __________________ My Stable- 2022 Lifan KPX250 , 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1992 Honda GL1500 Goldwing, SSR 70 Auto, Kymco Mongoose 90, Honda Four Trax 300
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Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,360	Well, The Yammie is available all over the country for ~$3800 used to $5500 new. $4000 will get you a low miles cream puff. But what else could I buy for that kind of money? Lots more! A Chinese version for $2500 would get scooped up. __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it Last edited by Thumper; 06-01-2023 at 08:48 PM.
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05-31-2023, 06:44 PM	#2
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,588	Sky team v raptor ,also the Suzuki van van has always been popular in Europe ,I bet there is a clone of it over there which would be a similar bike .
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05-31-2023, 07:05 PM	#4
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,309	The only known competitor to the fat rear agricultural bike is the Suzuki Van Van... the Tdub is more offroad oriented...the vanvan more onroad... As for the question are there china clones of either? not that I'm aware of.
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06-02-2023, 11:47 AM	#11
nobade Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 6	Well, these are kinda sorta like a TW. Tires aren't as big but smaller diameter than normal dirt bikes. http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250x.php
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