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Old 03-05-2018, 01:21 PM   #1
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Asia Wing 450 in town

Hi there;

Have been riding around RX3 across Pakistan, but had tough time getting it on offroad Weekend Hang outs.

I started to miss as I would join em and just sit back and take tea while buddies would do flybys on there DRs and XRs...

I previously had experience with DR and CRF250 this time I started research stumbled upan Asia Wing via tracing roots of Christini AWD 450.

AND next day I just booked one for my self...

So Long story short, the bike landed and I have no fricken clue of how to assemble it or break in procedure e.t.c...

So I have been reading a lot online in last couple of days, also found some excellent User and Workshop manuals...

Seems like bikes engine is power ful but VERY delicate has two sperate Oil chamber (engnie/transmission)

And almost all over the manual its writen again and again that low oil, or unchangd oil will make the tranmission fail... I wonder if its too deilcate to put in enduro in first place.. that they have to mention this again and again or may be this is too much track oriented stuff ?...

Also, it mentions to change oil rapidly... did not get it what it really mean to change it after 2.5hours, track stuff again ?? ?

Lastly I am totally clue less where to put the rear tail light and number plate or how to fit it... manual do not explain the fitting or first time out of the box assembly nor there is any online ref.

I just used it for 2 hours today (on road) and the bike is smoking hot power ful... seat is a brick though!!

Its a blast of actual 43HP..... on has to sit tight on a straight seat and hold it tight!!

LOVED IT....

I am not sure if on Chinariders there are much LD450 users ?
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Old 03-05-2018, 05:03 PM   #2
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Nice 450! I am looking for one in the USA. I can't find a dealer.

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Old 03-05-2018, 05:57 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure that we don't get that model in the US. That being said, it sounds like the service intervals are for racing intervals, but it'd be best to stick with those intervals until you have an idea of how the oil comes out. Those intervals are for amount of time the engine is running, basically.

The language about the transmission sounds like legalese cya language, but it is possible that the transmission is especially sensitive. Either way, get rid of the cheap oil that came in it ASAP, as the chinese oil that tends to come with chinabikes is merely a rust preventative, with very limited lubricating qualities. Additionally, the first couple of oil changes are at reduced intervals in order to get out the debris from the engine and transmission getting run in. (This is assuming that it is actually an Asiawing product, not a Christini. If it is an actual Christini, I'd think that it comes with good oil)

Many MX bikes have separate transmission and engine oils, it's not necessarily an indication of fragility.


 
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:16 PM   #4
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Here's a link to manufacturer for those interested:

http://www.asiawing.com/products_list2.html


Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any low-end Chinese 450cc class enduros in the USA market, at least as far as I've seen. I imagine the lack of dealer support along with the EPA requirements make it too difficult to support or get highway certification with a cheap enough engine to make for a compelling price point. Still, considering the entry points for a KTM or Husqvarna, I'm a little surprised somebody isn't trying.


 
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Old 03-05-2018, 08:45 PM   #5
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For those newer members who wondered above--we DO have that bike available in the US via SSR

http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/...bike-index.php

vickytulla--congrats and please keep us updated on your ownership experience!!
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:52 PM   #6
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The engine is sort of a knockoff of the early crf450 engine. Lower compression and slightly better service intervals.than the crf engine. The crf450 engine also uses the same split oil concept, and they even copied the "twin air" intake setup.
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:12 AM   #7
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For those newer members who wondered above--we DO have that bike available in the US via SSR

http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/...bike-index.php

vickytulla--congrats and please keep us updated on your ownership experience!!
I saw this bike personally at my local SSR dealer! Needless to say it is a VERY NICE MACHINE!! Every bit as nice and looks to be of VERY good quality! In fact if it didn't have any stickers anywhere on it, you would swear its a bike from Japan, its THAT GOOD!
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:46 AM   #8
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I saw this bike personally at my local SSR dealer! Needless to say it is a VERY NICE MACHINE!! Every bit as nice and looks to be of VERY good quality! In fact if it didn't have any stickers anywhere on it, you would swear its a bike from Japan, its THAT GOOD!
Thats because it is a straight up clone of the early 2000's crf450. Even the genuine fork internals will swap over.
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Old 03-06-2018, 01:49 AM   #9
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Ride it like you stole it and whatever breaks or falls off, replace it with a Honda part. If the part in question doesn't cost as the whole bike that is .


 
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Old 03-06-2018, 06:55 AM   #10
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For those newer members who wondered above--we DO have that bike available in the US via SSR

http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/...bike-index.php

vickytulla--congrats and please keep us updated on your ownership experience!!
Thanks mate; I will be posting Adventures on this .. I bought this for pure dirt rides where RX was holding men back big time.... I hope it comes out good!

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The engine is sort of a knockoff of the early crf450 engine. Lower compression and slightly better service intervals.than the crf engine. The crf450 engine also uses the same split oil concept, and they even copied the "twin air" intake setup.
This make me concerned and relax at the same time.. concerned because its a clone not orignal so a big question mark on metallurgy, assembly, quality etc...

Relaxed becuase Exact copy means CRF parts will happily take control if any thing goes wrong...
Lets hope it works out for me a couple of summers..



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Ride it like you stole it and whatever breaks or falls off, replace it with a Honda part. If the part in question doesn't cost as the whole bike that is .
ha ha ha... can agree more!
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So for now I should rely on check and keep an eye MODE to find out sweet spot of oil changing cycle...

By the way Bike is tall and I am a small guy,... Any suggestions how can I lower it ? what should I do about this....

The only time I would need to place foot on ground is if the bike looses traction (loose stones on mountains are my enemy) or when I come to stop... Dont want to crash land every ride end...
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Old 03-06-2018, 08:09 AM   #12
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Sweet looking bike. May I suggest bringing the 70's back and get some platform shoes. Yeah, you might want t lower it a little. ChondaChondaChonda has a thread on here somewhere on how he lowered the rear with a spacer in the shock.


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This make me concerned and relax at the same time.. concerned because its a clone not orignal so a big question mark on metallurgy, assembly, quality etc...

Relaxed becuase Exact copy means CRF parts will happily take control if any thing goes wrong...
The engine is not an exact copy. My exact words were knock-off, not clone. They are extremely similar, but there are some differences here or there, so don't count on CRF450 engine parts all working on it. Some bits might here or there, but nothing has been verified by an owner up to this point.

I was specifically talking about the Frame, suspenesion, and body when talking about it being a clone.

As far as the height thing. Following Jerry's suggestion, it might be really awkward using the shifter, but you might get your feet to touch... https://www.hottopic.com/product/y.r...xoCt_IQAvD_BwE

In all seriousness, there are a few options to get the bike a bit lower, but you can only go so far with the suspension before it starts having adverse effects on it's capabilities. Lowering links for the rear shock can buy a couple of inches back. Shaving the seat foam down. The forks are far more tricky to setup for less height, but you may be able to buy yourself half an inch or so by sliding them up in the triple clamps a little. Honestly, that seat has a lot of foam in it, so simply shaving it down an inch or two might make all the difference.

The real question is, how is the sag with your weight full on the seat and the stand UP. Can you touch the ground with your toes? Once you start lowering a bike via the suspension, you start sacrificing suspension travel, which is the whole point of these bikes.

I know a bit more than most about this particular bike because I was planning on buying the SSR SR450S before I went and spent all my money on my VFR1200. Lots and lots of reading and searching.
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Oh, and since it is basically the same bike as the SR450S, this might come in handy for service intervals and other basic info. PDF Owners manual. http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/...L%20SR450S.pdf

Page 13 has a maintenance schedule.
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By the way Bike is tall and I am a small guy,... Any suggestions how can I lower it ? what should I do about this....
Get fat and heavy so that the rear shock compresses more?!


 
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