Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3): Delphi Multec EFI - Page 5

Weldangrind · 03-06-2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by No1Vic

Interesting thread..... I like to see what's going on with any vehicles I have so think I'll be making up a lead to see if I can connect to the OBD port, got an assortment of diagnostic software and adapters so see what I can do. If I have any luck I will share the results on this forum :-)

That would be terrific!

Honestly, the skill set of our members is amazing.

No1Vic · 03-17-2015, 08:59 AM

Right I'm going to spend the day looking into making an OBD connector for this bike, see on the wiring diagram there is 6 wires to the diagnostics port, both K-line and canbus connections..... I will try the K-line first (easiest) and see if my diagnostic gear picks up anything then look into the canbus connection ... I see there is a note on Delphi's pinout diagram for the ECU that canbus is used for ECM development only so maybe caution needed, wouldn't want to disable my bike .....

Weldangrind · 03-17-2015, 10:32 AM

I'm pretty someone (Spud, perhaps?) found an OBDII adapter for the Delphi connector. Perhaps that would take some risk out.

SpudRider · 03-17-2015, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No1Vic

Right I'm going to spend the day looking into making an OBD connector for this bike, see on the wiring diagram there is 6 wires to the diagnostics port, both K-line and canbus connections..... I will try the K-line first (easiest) and see if my diagnostic gear picks up anything then look into the canbus connection ... I see there is a note on Delphi's pinout diagram for the ECU that canbus is used for ECM development only so maybe caution needed, wouldn't want to disable my bike .....

Post #33 of this thread should provide the information you need. The Delphi connector employs only three wires, one of which is the K line.

No1Vic · 03-17-2015, 12:11 PM

Made up a lead, connected to the port and nothing, no data being picked up from the K Line on my bike :-( Will have to try the canbus connections next, I've included a pic of the port pinout. I'm wondering if pin 5 is equivalent to a L line connection needed to 'wake up' the K Line communications? Any thoughts? Attached pic of the OBD adapter lead I've made, probes for 12+, ground and K-Line.

No1Vic · 03-18-2015, 03:14 AM

Look what I've found on good old ebay,,,,I wonder if it's worth a try: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-6...item2594f846cf

Weldangrind · 03-18-2015, 10:43 AM

Not a bad price, if it will do what you need.

No1Vic · 03-18-2015, 03:44 PM

The Harley Davidsons use the Delphi MT05 ECM.........lots of tuning interfaces available to do your own fuel mapping for them,mmmmm now then it must be research time ;-)

samcool · 04-26-2015, 03:39 PM

Hi

Here is SW for flashing Delphi MT05 ECUs

http://bitbox.ru/en/catalog/1

Maybe someone needed for tuning

cheers

SpudRider · 04-26-2015, 05:49 PM

Thanks for posting the link.

samcool · 05-01-2015, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No1Vic

The Harley Davidsons use the Delphi MT05 ECM.........lots of tuning interfaces available to do your own fuel mapping for them,mmmmm now then it must be research time ;-)

btw harley MT05 differents from all chineese

Mt05 and mt05.2 using all around has K-line to communicate
Harley MT05 - using CAN

so any tools for harley will not work

SpudRider · 05-01-2015, 10:57 AM

Thank you for posting that good information.

katflap · 05-10-2015, 03:29 PM

I have found a USB connector that looks like it might connect a laptop running the PCHUD software to the Delphi Mt05 diagnosis plug.

(I haven't checked the plug but it looks about right)

http://detail.1688.com/offer/4223376...0.0.0.0.ubmz58

(reference to RX3 in description)

and here I think is the same item on Taobao

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...ucket=2#detail

the description suggests it might come with software.

Its a long shot but you never know it might just work

SpudRider · 05-11-2015, 12:05 AM

Thanks for posting the link, Kat. You are quickly becoming a Taobao Guru.

Weldangrind · 05-11-2015, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katflap

I have found a USB connector that looks like it might connect a laptop running the PCHUD software to the Delphi Mt05 diagnosis plug.

(I haven't checked the plug but it looks about right)

http://detail.1688.com/offer/4223376...0.0.0.0.ubmz58

(reference to RX3 in description)

and here I think is the same item on Taobao

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...ucket=2#detail

the description suggests it might come with software.

Its a long shot but you never know it might just work

Nice work! Are you going to buy one?

03-17-2015, 10:32 AM	#63
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I'm pretty someone (Spud, perhaps?) found an OBDII adapter for the Delphi connector. Perhaps that would take some risk out. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-18-2015, 03:14 AM	#66
No1Vic Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 56	Look what I've found on good old ebay,,,,I wonder if it's worth a try: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-6...item2594f846cf __________________ 2015 Honley RX3 2010 Suzuki 1250 Bandit 2006 Suzuki Hayabusa
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03-18-2015, 10:43 AM	#67
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Not a bad price, if it will do what you need. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-18-2015, 03:44 PM	#68
No1Vic Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 56	The Harley Davidsons use the Delphi MT05 ECM.........lots of tuning interfaces available to do your own fuel mapping for them,mmmmm now then it must be research time ;-) __________________ 2015 Honley RX3 2010 Suzuki 1250 Bandit 2006 Suzuki Hayabusa
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04-26-2015, 03:39 PM	#69
samcool Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2	Delphi flashing tool Hi Here is SW for flashing Delphi MT05 ECUs http://bitbox.ru/en/catalog/1 Maybe someone needed for tuning cheers
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03-17-2015, 08:59 AM	#62
No1Vic Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 56	Right I'm going to spend the day looking into making an OBD connector for this bike, see on the wiring diagram there is 6 wires to the diagnostics port, both K-line and canbus connections..... I will try the K-line first (easiest) and see if my diagnostic gear picks up anything then look into the canbus connection ... I see there is a note on Delphi's pinout diagram for the ECU that canbus is used for ECM development only so maybe caution needed, wouldn't want to disable my bike .....
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04-26-2015, 05:49 PM	#70
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Thanks for posting the link. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-01-2015, 10:57 AM	#72
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Thank you for posting that good information. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-10-2015, 03:29 PM	#73
katflap Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 382	I have found a USB connector that looks like it might connect a laptop running the PCHUD software to the Delphi Mt05 diagnosis plug. (I haven't checked the plug but it looks about right) http://detail.1688.com/offer/4223376...0.0.0.0.ubmz58 (reference to RX3 in description) and here I think is the same item on Taobao http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...ucket=2#detail the description suggests it might come with software. Its a long shot but you never know it might just work
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05-11-2015, 12:05 AM	#74
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Thanks for posting the link, Kat. You are quickly becoming a Taobao Guru. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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