Vader from Kronik or Hellcat from Q9

[culcune]

Thanks to the KP Mini being street legal in California, Kronik also stocks those. Actually, Kronik had them on their site for quite a while, but could not sell them locally. The original question was about which to choose between a Vader and a Hellcat--Pete at Kronik had told me several years back why he chooses to only stock the Vader and not Taotao products. Since he is a California authorized dealer with a brick and mortar store, he could actually sell Hellcats since they are also California legal, but chooses not to.

But, yes, look into spending a bit more and strongly consider the KP Mini. Pete will tell you all about them.

[Deckard_Cain]

Originally Posted by culcune

Thanks to the KP Mini being street legal in California, Kronik also stocks those. Actually, Kronik had them on their site for quite a while, but could not sell them locally. The original question was about which to choose between a Vader and a Hellcat--Pete at Kronik had told me several years back why he chooses to only stock the Vader and not Taotao products. Since he is a California authorized dealer with a brick and mortar store, he could actually sell Hellcats since they are also California legal, but chooses not to.

But, yes, look into spending a bit more and strongly consider the KP Mini. Pete will tell you all about them.

What was Pete's reasoning on no TaoTao's? Curious... My Vader gen 2 from him has been flawless, despite now no longer being anything close to original..lol.

[culcune]

Originally Posted by Deckard_Cain

What was Pete's reasoning on no TaoTao's? Curious... My Vader gen 2 from him has been flawless, despite now no longer being anything close to original..lol.

I spoke with him about this in 2018. I don't recall all the details, but he was not impressed with Taotao's overall quality. He also liked the fact that Boom/Baodiao here in the US would listen to him on improving the Vaders, which I am guessing Taotao would not. Plus, Boom carried parts. I recall the stock Vaders being somewhat hit or miss in 2015 or '16 here on Chinariders, but seemed to get better and better over time. Pete takes credit for that, and him being so literally close to Boom's headquarters and traveling there a few times a week makes me tend to believe he really did have something to do with the Vaders getting better.

Edit: I should add that there are not many Chinese bikes, or at least weren't, that were California legal, so not carrying the Tao was surprising to me since the mini category has been 'hot' for quite a while, but he really did not care for them.