Which Honda is the Pushrod Engine Cloned From?

Weldangrind · 04-19-2011, 10:27 AM

I asked this question in another forum, but I haven't seen a response yet. The original Honda pushrod engined bike was posted somewhere on here, but I can't remember what it was (I think it was a 125). Any ideas?

Weldangrind · 04-19-2011, 10:31 AM

Found it.

Weldangrind · 04-19-2011, 11:10 AM

Here's a decent valve adjustment tutorial for the pushrod Honda clones, and it applies to the Beast atv as well: http://hondacg125.awardspace.com/valve_clearance.htm

katoranger · 04-19-2011, 11:22 AM

I believe that the cg was never imported into the US. It appears to be the basis for most of the CB engines.

Weldangrind · 04-19-2011, 11:26 AM

It's big in the UK and Brazil, but I've never seen one here. I'm certainly happy with the pushrod platform, especially in an ATV.

Reveeen · 04-19-2011, 12:56 PM

Can't see why you wouldn't be.... OHC is way overkill in regular everyday applications.
Honda makes/made a 300cc (?) in a pushrod engine in an ATV.

katoranger · 04-19-2011, 01:58 PM

My pushrod engine performed just fine. Simple.

Barnone · 04-19-2011, 03:13 PM

So far so good for my CG229 in my Dong Fang bobber at 800 miles. Sure is easy to adjust the valves on it.

2LZ · 04-19-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reveeen

Can't see why you wouldn't be.... OHC is way overkill in regular everyday applications.

I believe that they are both fine motors and both are proven bulltproof.
Let's not forget....the original old Honda's that came to us, way back in the early 60's, and all they way along, were basically all OHC, so they've been building them forever in that format.

suprf1y · 04-19-2011, 04:57 PM

This is what I thought of immediately
http://www.honda.com.mx/motos/cargo/

You see a lot of these in Mexico, especially doing delivery, like pizza, and Chinese food. Yes, Chinese food in Mexico.

Weldangrind · 04-19-2011, 08:39 PM

I like it, suprf1y. The solo seat and carrying rack are great ideas. Too bad it's $2441.00 Canadian dollars. I could see something like that selling here if the price point was a little lower.

suprf1y · 04-20-2011, 07:37 AM

Good luck with that. If Honda sold them here, they'd be $3999

Last time I was in Mexico, you could buy a brand new Yamaha A 100 for $1100 from the local dealer.

ejcycles · 04-20-2011, 12:53 PM

Kato you are correct that Honda has not ever been in the USA, it isn't in what I call {The Honda Bible} "Honda Motorcycle Identification Guide" that contains All Motorcycles, Scooters, ATVs & of course the Odyssey & Pilot, {no they are not automobiles} since 1959.

W&G, FastDoc, I guess I stand corrected as Honda did make a smaller bore Vertical Push-Rod engine. I have not ever seen or heard of this bike pictured above prior to today. The only ones that I have ever seen are the Cub 50s, CA110 Sport 50, Trail 90s, CA200 Honda 90 & last but not least the Qa50.

Yes there are a lot of Honda ATVs that are push-rod engines... TRX250EX/ES and most of the Utility ATVs are push-rod engines.

mizke · 04-20-2011, 07:31 PM

thank you weld for posting that link, now i know exactly how to adjust my valves..

quick off topic question.. the valve clearances in that link are for a 125cc motor correct ? would i use those same numbers for my 200cc motor ?

Barnone · 04-20-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by suprf1y

This is what I thought of immediately
http://www.honda.com.mx/motos/cargo/

You see a lot of these in Mexico, especially doing delivery, like pizza, and Chinese food. Yes, Chinese food in Mexico.

That is the same bike that 73 year old Simon Gandolfi rode from the US/Mexican border to Tierra del Fuego and then from Tierra del Fuego to New York.

http://simongandolfi.blogspot.com/

His book is worth a read.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Old-Man-Bike.../dp/1906321663

04-19-2011, 10:27 AM	#1
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Which Honda is the Pushrod Engine Cloned From? I asked this question in another forum, but I haven't seen a response yet. The original Honda pushrod engined bike was posted somewhere on here, but I can't remember what it was (I think it was a 125). Any ideas? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-19-2011, 10:31 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Found it. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-19-2011, 11:10 AM	#3
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Here's a decent valve adjustment tutorial for the pushrod Honda clones, and it applies to the Beast atv as well: http://hondacg125.awardspace.com/valve_clearance.htm __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-19-2011, 11:22 AM	#4
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I believe that the cg was never imported into the US. It appears to be the basis for most of the CB engines. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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04-19-2011, 11:26 AM	#5
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	It's big in the UK and Brazil, but I've never seen one here. I'm certainly happy with the pushrod platform, especially in an ATV. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-19-2011, 12:56 PM	#6
Reveeen Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: orbital platform Posts: 741	Can't see why you wouldn't be.... OHC is way overkill in regular everyday applications. Honda makes/made a 300cc (?) in a pushrod engine in an ATV.
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04-19-2011, 01:58 PM	#7
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	My pushrod engine performed just fine. Simple. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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04-19-2011, 03:13 PM	#8
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,354	So far so good for my CG229 in my Dong Fang bobber at 800 miles. Sure is easy to adjust the valves on it.
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04-19-2011, 04:57 PM	#10
suprf1y Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SW Ontario Posts: 408	This is what I thought of immediately http://www.honda.com.mx/motos/cargo/ You see a lot of these in Mexico, especially doing delivery, like pizza, and Chinese food. Yes, Chinese food in Mexico.
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04-19-2011, 08:39 PM	#11
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I like it, suprf1y. The solo seat and carrying rack are great ideas. Too bad it's $2441.00 Canadian dollars. I could see something like that selling here if the price point was a little lower. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-20-2011, 07:37 AM	#12
suprf1y Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SW Ontario Posts: 408	Good luck with that. If Honda sold them here, they'd be $3999 Last time I was in Mexico, you could buy a brand new Yamaha A 100 for $1100 from the local dealer.
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04-20-2011, 12:53 PM	#13
ejcycles Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 11481 State Route 44 Mantua, Ohio 44255 Posts: 1,112	Kato you are correct that Honda has not ever been in the USA, it isn't in what I call {The Honda Bible} "Honda Motorcycle Identification Guide" that contains All Motorcycles, Scooters, ATVs & of course the Odyssey & Pilot, {no they are not automobiles} since 1959. W&G, FastDoc, I guess I stand corrected as Honda did make a smaller bore Vertical Push-Rod engine. I have not ever seen or heard of this bike pictured above prior to today. The only ones that I have ever seen are the Cub 50s, CA110 Sport 50, Trail 90s, CA200 Honda 90 & last but not least the Qa50. Yes there are a lot of Honda ATVs that are push-rod engines... TRX250EX/ES and most of the Utility ATVs are push-rod engines. __________________ Thanks, Bruce @ Endless Journey Cycles "Phone Calls Only" ~330-274-0098~ Hours: Tue.-Fri. 10:00-6:00 Sat. 10:00-4:00 EST. Dealer for: Lifan, Crossrunner ATVs. http://www.endlessjourneycycles.net
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04-20-2011, 07:31 PM	#14
mizke Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,452	thank you weld for posting that link, now i know exactly how to adjust my valves.. quick off topic question.. the valve clearances in that link are for a 125cc motor correct ? would i use those same numbers for my 200cc motor ? __________________ 200cc beast replica,carsoli cdi,performance coil,fmf powercore 2,uni air filter,hour/tach meter,jetted mikuni carb,msr bars,moose racing grips,yz250f clutch perch,D.I.D chain
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