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mufflerman68 · 04-24-2017, 09:23 PM

hi, im new to the china bike thing. i saw a ad for the hawk and loved it. did a little looking and reading. i want one. then come to find out there are a few bikes out there. hawk,brozz, lancer, storm, etc.... i have always liked hondas great bikes. the question now is what is the best buy? i have checked out motocheese. what is the best buy? any input would be great. the hawk is not around at the moment. brozz? what do you think? thank you for your help

MOTOXtreme · 04-24-2017, 09:35 PM

I don't think there are many bikes available at the moment. Seems the early season folks went nuts on the China bike stock. Others will chime in with what's out there ATM. I've been extremely impressed with my Brozz.

culcune · 04-24-2017, 10:18 PM

The Magician is the only one available as far as from the usual sources. Actually, someone posted that Motobuys has a few Hawks left, but you would want to call them to confirm. They have the exact same Hawk renamed under two different brands; one is a 'Lancer' and the other is a 'Vento.' They are BOTH RPS Hawks. http://www.motobuys.com/sportbikes.htm
They like to rename bikes from old, defunct brands. Lancer, Kymoto, Jetmoto and Vento are companies that are no longer in business but Motobuys uses to rename bikes; it adds to the confusion. They also have the Magician which is also renamed as a Lancer branded bike. The Magician is a totally different bike than the Hawk, but uses the exact same engine. By the way, both the Hawk and the Magician are technically NOT DOT certified but are certified as 'Off-road motorcycles' Make sure you can register either one in your state.

Megadan · 04-25-2017, 01:04 AM

I am just as new to these bikes. As far as the Brozz vs. The Hawk 250, the two things I came across the most as different was the rear sprocket on the Brozz is a 45 tooth vs 50 on the hawk, and supposedly the brozz comes with either a better carb or better carb tuning out of the box. I personally went for the hawk because I got a deal on it for pre ordering that made it about 500 bucks less than the Brozz would have cost me. Even if I did every upgrade and new front and rear sprocket to the hawk, it will still be cheaper than the Brozz.

Dieselrunner · 04-25-2017, 01:13 AM

I'm happy with the enforcer I bought. Basically from what I've read here, it's an upgraded version of the hawk. Better tuned carb, 45 17 sprockets 21" front 18" rear. I bought mine from apsc but opinions have soured on here regarding that dealer.

dpl096 · 04-26-2017, 08:55 PM

Welcome aboard Mufflerman ...nice to see another inmate from Hellinois rooting around in here. ....

04-24-2017, 09:23 PM	#1
mufflerman68 Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 5	hello hi, im new to the china bike thing. i saw a ad for the hawk and loved it. did a little looking and reading. i want one. then come to find out there are a few bikes out there. hawk,brozz, lancer, storm, etc.... i have always liked hondas great bikes. the question now is what is the best buy? i have checked out motocheese. what is the best buy? any input would be great. the hawk is not around at the moment. brozz? what do you think? thank you for your help
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04-24-2017, 09:35 PM	#2
MOTOXtreme Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waynesboro, Virginia Posts: 336	I don't think there are many bikes available at the moment. Seems the early season folks went nuts on the China bike stock. Others will chime in with what's out there ATM. I've been extremely impressed with my Brozz. __________________ Brian Previously owned / operated MOTO Xtreme selling American Lifan / Check out my friends at www.armattanquads.com "Imagination is more important that knowledge" Albert Einstein
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04-24-2017, 10:18 PM	#3
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	The Magician is the only one available as far as from the usual sources. Actually, someone posted that Motobuys has a few Hawks left, but you would want to call them to confirm. They have the exact same Hawk renamed under two different brands; one is a 'Lancer' and the other is a 'Vento.' They are BOTH RPS Hawks. http://www.motobuys.com/sportbikes.htm They like to rename bikes from old, defunct brands. Lancer, Kymoto, Jetmoto and Vento are companies that are no longer in business but Motobuys uses to rename bikes; it adds to the confusion. They also have the Magician which is also renamed as a Lancer branded bike. The Magician is a totally different bike than the Hawk, but uses the exact same engine. By the way, both the Hawk and the Magician are technically NOT DOT certified but are certified as 'Off-road motorcycles' Make sure you can register either one in your state. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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04-26-2017, 08:55 PM	#6
dpl096 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: East Central Hellinois Posts: 1,344	Welcome aboard Mufflerman ...nice to see another inmate from Hellinois rooting around in here. .... __________________ ************************************************ * " Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted." - John Lennon “I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” ― Thomas Jefferson "If you don't know where you're going any road will take you there" ....George Harrison song
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04-25-2017, 01:04 AM	#4
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 7,911	I am just as new to these bikes. As far as the Brozz vs. The Hawk 250, the two things I came across the most as different was the rear sprocket on the Brozz is a 45 tooth vs 50 on the hawk, and supposedly the brozz comes with either a better carb or better carb tuning out of the box. I personally went for the hawk because I got a deal on it for pre ordering that made it about 500 bucks less than the Brozz would have cost me. Even if I did every upgrade and new front and rear sprocket to the hawk, it will still be cheaper than the Brozz.
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04-25-2017, 01:13 AM	#5
Dieselrunner Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Kentucky Posts: 34	I'm happy with the enforcer I bought. Basically from what I've read here, it's an upgraded version of the hawk. Better tuned carb, 45 17 sprockets 21" front 18" rear. I bought mine from apsc but opinions have soured on here regarding that dealer.
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