2017 venom x20 125cc lifan

imapdog · 03-19-2018, 09:41 PM

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imapdog · 03-19-2018, 09:48 PM

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i used part of this two piece kit.
flipped tail light upside down.
all four bolts lined up.
couldnt keep rack that came from venom.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vagabond-Mo...edirect=mobile

imapdog · 03-19-2018, 10:11 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-MSX12...edirect=mobile
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imapdog · 03-19-2018, 10:24 PM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01FS...o_pop_mb_pd_t2
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kept vm22 carb as is. only changed jet to 115. bolted it up. fired up nice!
idle was right on too! havent gotten her up to top speed but think i need to
go down to 110 jet. not completely sure yet. exhaust didnt work out and jetted it for new exuast that didnt fit. the air mixture is on the bottom and adjustable from the outside.
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the mounting bracket for the emissions stuff was used perfectly for the block off plate.
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imapdog · 03-19-2018, 10:30 PM

i really think this thing will sound good and go faster with better exhaust.
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pics were taken before sprocket change

imapdog · 03-20-2018, 01:39 PM

i purchased low mount exhaust for grom:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SC-Low-Moun...72.m2749.l2649
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it did not fit in two ways:
1) the Spigot-collar is too short
2) it seems as if it angles off a honda grom engine directly down.
my 125cc lifan on the venom x20 has a slight angle toward the
rear. other words....a 90 degree bend off engine is grom, and
the x20 needs maybe 100 degree bend. not sure if its a difference
of engine being mounted differently or the exhaust hole on engine
is in fact at a different angle from grom to x20.
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i have read where a pipe adapter fixes a common problem with klx to
honda with:
http://shop.pitsterpro.com/nccpipeadapter.aspx
or maybe stacking some 2-3 Crushable exhaust gaskets:
http://tboltusa.com/store/tech.php?p...+Pipe+Adapters

all said if i can change the depth of my collar and change the angle,
my purchased exhaust would fit.
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Weldangrind · 03-21-2018, 11:03 AM

Is it possible to trim the collar to meet the exhaust port angle?

imapdog · 03-21-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Is it possible to trim the collar to meet the exhaust port angle?

maybe, if the collar was longer. it is too short to begin with.
i like these possibilities, but trial and error is expensive:
https://tboltusa.com/store/honda-50-...er-p-2293.html
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Z50-E...72.m2749.l2649
wish i had detailed specs.

imapdog · 03-21-2018, 07:43 PM

i ordered msx 125 exhaust and didnt fit. this is why.
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Weldangrind · 03-22-2018, 11:14 AM

Do you have access to a welder? You could grind off the weld that secures the existing collar and then weld a deeper collar in place. That would allow you to trim the edge to any angle you wish. You'll need to paint the collar, but that's NBD.

imapdog · 03-23-2018, 07:32 PM

i may need more than one 32mm crush washer, how many is using too many?
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it does barely touch frame where engine mount bolt runs thru, but it seals perfect at exhaust port without any crush washers. if this fits tomorrow, can i claim some sort of a gorilla bike status?
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came with hardware when ad said no hardware.
now i have more crush washers. just enough gap filler i need to make this work.
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imapdog · 03-24-2018, 10:23 AM

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i think i will try some tube spacers and long bolt for
mounting this pipe here, any better ideas?

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culcune · 03-24-2018, 01:07 PM

Awesome! These bikes are very, very versatile, kind of like the bike that came before them. The CT70 clones had numerous parts that would interchange with real CT70s. Their 125cc engines were essentially pit bike engines, so many upgrade parts, and/or engine swaps (140, 160, 190,) could be done with those.

These bikes are close enough to Groms where many parts will interchange, but are also close to pit bikes in the engine department, as you found out with your Piranha exhaust. I look forward to seeing these bikes in the months to come; you guys seem to be younger than those who bought CT70 replicas, so I envision many upgrades and engine swaps.

One question I have been meaning to ask--the initial batch of Boom! (aka Baodiao) Vaders seem to be like Hawks in that members had several things to do to them to get them going. Some were on the verge of giving up, until they got the love and support here and voila, theirs were up running. Your bike is recent, so did you find minor niggles and issues when assembling it? Perhaps with feedback they have gotten these down?

Weldangrind · 03-26-2018, 10:25 AM

Do you need to re-bend the bracket to line up with the mounting hole underneath? Hard to tell from the pic angle.

imapdog · 03-26-2018, 10:46 AM

the already welded on bracket on the exhaust pipe lined up perfectly to the unused threaded hole on bottom of the engine. i went to hardware store and bought 1" pipe spacer (hardened), bolt, and two rubber washers. very easy and a bonus to not makeshift anything! been contemplating on knocking out the baffle.

03-19-2018, 09:41 PM	#1
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	2017 venom x20 125cc lifan Attachment 12274 Attachment 12275 Attachment 12276 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-19-2018, 09:48 PM	#2
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	fender delete Attachment 12279 Attachment 12278 Attachment 12277 i used part of this two piece kit. flipped tail light upside down. all four bolts lined up. couldnt keep rack that came from venom. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vagabond-Mo...edirect=mobile Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-19-2018, 10:11 PM	#3
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	sprockets. stock 14/34 428 110link. now 17/34 428. jt chain same 110 links https://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-MSX12...edirect=mobile * https://www.ebay.com/itm/17Tooth-428...edirect=mobile * https://www.ebay.com/itm/JT-428-HDR-...edirect=mobile * Attachment 12280 Attachment 12281 Attachment 12282 Attachment 12283 Attachment 12284 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-19-2018, 10:24 PM	#4
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	vm22. venturi 22mm to 26mm at intake kit 115jet https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01FS...o_pop_mb_pd_t2 * kept vm22 carb as is. only changed jet to 115. bolted it up. fired up nice! idle was right on too! havent gotten her up to top speed but think i need to go down to 110 jet. not completely sure yet. exhaust didnt work out and jetted it for new exuast that didnt fit. the air mixture is on the bottom and adjustable from the outside. * Attachment 12273 Attachment 12272 the mounting bracket for the emissions stuff was used perfectly for the block off plate. Attachment 12270 Attachment 12271 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-19-2018, 10:30 PM	#5
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	ready to ride got tags easily. wish had bolt on low mount exhaust. its quiet! i really think this thing will sound good and go faster with better exhaust. Attachment 12288 Attachment 12287 Attachment 12286 Attachment 12285 pics were taken before sprocket change Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-20-2018, 01:39 PM	#6
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	need help fam. cannot find bolt-on exhaust. i purchased low mount exhaust for grom: https://www.ebay.com/itm/SC-Low-Moun...72.m2749.l2649 * it did not fit in two ways: 1) the Spigot-collar is too short 2) it seems as if it angles off a honda grom engine directly down. my 125cc lifan on the venom x20 has a slight angle toward the rear. other words....a 90 degree bend off engine is grom, and the x20 needs maybe 100 degree bend. not sure if its a difference of engine being mounted differently or the exhaust hole on engine is in fact at a different angle from grom to x20. * i have read where a pipe adapter fixes a common problem with klx to honda with: http://shop.pitsterpro.com/nccpipeadapter.aspx or maybe stacking some 2-3 Crushable exhaust gaskets: http://tboltusa.com/store/tech.php?p...+Pipe+Adapters all said if i can change the depth of my collar and change the angle, my purchased exhaust would fit. Attachment 12289 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-21-2018, 11:03 AM	#7
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Is it possible to trim the collar to meet the exhaust port angle? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-21-2018, 07:43 PM	#9
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	exhaust specs so far i ordered msx 125 exhaust and didnt fit. this is why. Attachment 12308 Attachment 12309 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-22-2018, 11:14 AM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Do you have access to a welder? You could grind off the weld that secures the existing collar and then weld a deeper collar in place. That would allow you to trim the edge to any angle you wish. You'll need to paint the collar, but that's NBD. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-23-2018, 07:32 PM	#11
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	attempting z50 piranha exhaust on this 125cc lifan tomorrow i may need more than one 32mm crush washer, how many is using too many? Attachment 12328 it does barely touch frame where engine mount bolt runs thru, but it seals perfect at exhaust port without any crush washers. if this fits tomorrow, can i claim some sort of a gorilla bike status? Attachment 12329 Attachment 12330 Attachment 12331 came with hardware when ad said no hardware. now i have more crush washers. just enough gap filler i need to make this work. Attachment 12337 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-24-2018, 10:23 AM	#12
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	Z50 Piranha exhaust fit like a glove Attachment 12341 Attachment 12342 i think i will try some tube spacers and long bolt for mounting this pipe here, any better ideas? Attachment 12343 Attachment 12344 Last edited by imapdog; 02-14-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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03-24-2018, 01:07 PM	#13
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Awesome! These bikes are very, very versatile, kind of like the bike that came before them. The CT70 clones had numerous parts that would interchange with real CT70s. Their 125cc engines were essentially pit bike engines, so many upgrade parts, and/or engine swaps (140, 160, 190,) could be done with those. These bikes are close enough to Groms where many parts will interchange, but are also close to pit bikes in the engine department, as you found out with your Piranha exhaust. I look forward to seeing these bikes in the months to come; you guys seem to be younger than those who bought CT70 replicas, so I envision many upgrades and engine swaps. One question I have been meaning to ask--the initial batch of Boom! (aka Baodiao) Vaders seem to be like Hawks in that members had several things to do to them to get them going. Some were on the verge of giving up, until they got the love and support here and voila, theirs were up running. Your bike is recent, so did you find minor niggles and issues when assembling it? Perhaps with feedback they have gotten these down? __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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03-26-2018, 10:25 AM	#14
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Do you need to re-bend the bracket to line up with the mounting hole underneath? Hard to tell from the pic angle. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-26-2018, 10:46 AM	#15
imapdog Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: nashville Posts: 574	the already welded on bracket on the exhaust pipe lined up perfectly to the unused threaded hole on bottom of the engine. i went to hardware store and bought 1" pipe spacer (hardened), bolt, and two rubber washers. very easy and a bonus to not makeshift anything! been contemplating on knocking out the baffle.
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