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Old 03-24-2017, 03:08 PM   #1
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39 hp from a 300cc mill? I'd like to verify that on a dyno. Manufacturers are usually very optimistic when they list stuff like weight and hp, knowing that lots of people will take those numbers as gospel. I'm thinking about my Guzzi V7 (744cc) which dyno'd out at 39.57 hp stock and 41.86hp after flashing the ECU. That's about 10 hp less than advertised.

As for the cost...I got lots of options (skid plate, front and rear tire w/ 19" wheel trail package, tourer package...aluminum bags etc) and the bottom line was $5900 delivered to my door. I think it's easy to forget that the X-300 price is MSRP. Delivery, setup, documentation, etc are profit centers for the dealer and those numbers are unknown. I'm guessing a gap of $1.5 ~ $2K between the two bikes when all is said and done. That's not to say that the X-300 is not a good bike, possibly more capable than the Zong, just that CSC has less overhead to cover and thus can offer more for your money.

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Old 03-24-2017, 03:23 PM   #2
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39 hp from a 300cc mill? I'd like to verify that on a dyno. Manufacturers are usually very optimistic when they list stuff like weight and hp, knowing that lots of people will take those numbers as gospel. I'm thinking about my Guzzi V7 (744cc) which dyno'd out at 39.57 hp stock and 41.86hp after flashing the ECU. That's about 10 hp less than advertised.

As for the cost...I got lots of options (skid plate, front and rear tire w/ 19" wheel trail package, tourer package...aluminum bags etc) and the bottom line was $5900 delivered to my door. I think it's easy to forget that the X-300 price is MSRP. Delivery, setup, documentation, etc are profit centers for the dealer and those numbers are unknown. I'm guessing a gap of $1.5 ~ $2K between the two bikes when all is said and done. That's not to say that the X-300 is not a good bike, possibly more capable than the Zong, just that CSC has less overhead to cover and thus can offer more for your money.

Peter Y.
Not that I'm going to run out and buy one but I do like the idea it comes with a 19" front rim. I think I need that upgrade on the RX.
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Old 03-24-2017, 06:03 PM   #3
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39 hp from a 300cc mill? I'd like to verify that on a dyno. ...Peter Y.
I haven't seen a dyno chart for the X-300.

Though there is a dyno graph for the Nnja 300, same engine, that peaks out at 34.5 rear wheel hp at ~11,000 rpm.

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39 hp from a 300cc mill? I'd like to verify that on a dyno. Manufacturers are usually very optimistic when they list stuff like weight and hp, knowing that lots of people will take those numbers as gospel. I'm thinking about my Guzzi V7 (744cc) which dyno'd out at 39.57 hp stock and 41.86hp after flashing the ECU. That's about 10 hp less than advertised.

As for the cost...I got lots of options (skid plate, front and rear tire w/ 19" wheel trail package, tourer package...aluminum bags etc) and the bottom line was $5900 delivered to my door. I think it's easy to forget that the X-300 price is MSRP. Delivery, setup, documentation, etc are profit centers for the dealer and those numbers are unknown. I'm guessing a gap of $1.5 ~ $2K between the two bikes when all is said and done. That's not to say that the X-300 is not a good bike, possibly more capable than the Zong, just that CSC has less overhead to cover and thus can offer more for your money.

Peter Y.
Those Kawasaki small twins are great little engines. I had an '04 Ninja 250 and it put 26.4 hp to the rear wheel on a DynoJet 250i dyno so 39 hp at the crank out of their 300 seems to be pretty much in the ballpark for what I've seen in my experience.
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