X31 neutral issues

pooty6699 · 07-20-2010, 10:45 PM

Alright so I have adjusted my clutch and im getting same prob. When bike is cold and in gear I can easily get into neutral however when it is hot it is very hard to get into. Any suggestions

MICRider · 07-20-2010, 11:00 PM

Does the idle increase as the bike warms up? They don't like to go in gear if the engine is racing. Lots of these chinese machines come with the idle set very high.

pooty6699 · 07-20-2010, 11:15 PM

It idles normal, in fact i was about to adjust it cause it would occasionally stall. I just put a new mikuni in it. Although the clutch is fully pressed

Weldangrind · 07-21-2010, 01:53 AM

Have you tried synthetic oil?

pooty6699 · 07-21-2010, 05:53 PM

No I haven't I've been told not use synthetic in a brand new engine, no clue why but im starting to think I may throw it in.

AZ200cc · 07-22-2010, 02:13 AM

After break in You can run synthetic, What oil is in it now?

pooty6699 · 07-22-2010, 07:51 PM

10/40 atv oil for wet clutch virtually the same as 10/40 motorcycle oil

FosterVS · 07-22-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pooty6699

No I haven't I've been told not use synthetic in a brand new engine, no clue why but im starting to think I may throw it in.

Had mine for about a month, been using synthetic since day 1, also have trouble finding neutral as well.

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 08-01-2010, 01:32 AM

I think the main thing is to have the idle as low as possible.. and then make sure you adjust the clutch right up to make sure when you depress the clutch ( to allow you to put it into gear) you have full travel.. no free play allowed.. and the better oil is better for it as well..

Weldangrind · 08-01-2010, 12:17 PM

I believe that it's hard on the clutch to have no free play; I shoot for 1/8" to 1/4" at the perch per the manual.

brentn · 08-01-2010, 05:45 PM

I find with my girlfriends x31 it is very hard to find nuetral. You MUST have the bike rolling usually to get it to go. I usually rock it back and forth about a foot while lightly pressing up and she'll pop in.

pooty6699 · 08-06-2010, 02:48 AM

There is no free play in my clutch, I fine adjusted it and with 1/8 " free play, in gear with clutch engaged it will take off.

mizke · 08-06-2010, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brentn

I find with my girlfriends x31 it is very hard to find nuetral. You MUST have the bike rolling usually to get it to go. I usually rock it back and forth about a foot while lightly pressing up and she'll pop in.

i think that is normal to have to have the bike/quad moving to get it into some gears.. i can go out and depress my clutch, click into reverse, then back to n, and then into 1st but to get into 2nd or higher at a stand still i have to rock it a little..

i would not worry about unless its doing this while rolling..

also as said in another thread in the section... castrol 4 stroke oil.. is good stuff

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 08-27-2010, 12:58 AM

take the lever off of the clutch rod on the motor... move it forward to allow you to move the clutch so you get extra travel.. you will see when you adjust the clutch cable at the motor as much as you can... and then adjust the hand clutch lever more.. you will be able to put the trans in gear with out the bike moving forward... this is the way the clutch has to be.. when clutch is applied... and gear selection is made... THE BIKE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD... this is a must.. so adjust the clutch as needed.. there is nothing saying about free play.. they always say what I said in large letters.. this means the clutch is working as it should... you have to have so much travel to full release the clutch from the motor.. I do this to all my bikes and atv.s ( T3 ) and all works well.. excellent smooth shifting

FosterVS · 08-29-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FosterVS

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Originally Posted by pooty6699

No I haven't I've been told not use synthetic in a brand new engine, no clue why but im starting to think I may throw it in.

Had mine for about a month, been using synthetic since day 1, also have trouble finding neutral as well.

Just dumped the synthetic, and installed Rotella 15W40 ( couldn't find Rotella 15W40 synthetic anywhere... grr...)

I swear neutral is easier to find now!

07-20-2010, 10:45 PM	#1
pooty6699 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 29	X31 neutral issues Alright so I have adjusted my clutch and im getting same prob. When bike is cold and in gear I can easily get into neutral however when it is hot it is very hard to get into. Any suggestions
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07-21-2010, 01:53 AM	#4
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Have you tried synthetic oil? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-22-2010, 02:13 AM	#6
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	After break in You can run synthetic, What oil is in it now? __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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08-01-2010, 01:32 AM	#9
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	FINDING NUETRAL I think the main thing is to have the idle as low as possible.. and then make sure you adjust the clutch right up to make sure when you depress the clutch ( to allow you to put it into gear) you have full travel.. no free play allowed.. and the better oil is better for it as well..
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08-01-2010, 12:17 PM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I believe that it's hard on the clutch to have no free play; I shoot for 1/8" to 1/4" at the perch per the manual. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-20-2010, 11:00 PM	#2
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	Does the idle increase as the bike warms up? They don't like to go in gear if the engine is racing. Lots of these chinese machines come with the idle set very high.
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07-20-2010, 11:15 PM	#3
pooty6699 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 29	It idles normal, in fact i was about to adjust it cause it would occasionally stall. I just put a new mikuni in it. Although the clutch is fully pressed
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07-21-2010, 05:53 PM	#5
pooty6699 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 29	No I haven't I've been told not use synthetic in a brand new engine, no clue why but im starting to think I may throw it in.
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07-22-2010, 07:51 PM	#7
pooty6699 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 29	10/40 atv oil for wet clutch virtually the same as 10/40 motorcycle oil
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08-01-2010, 05:45 PM	#11
brentn Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 26	I find with my girlfriends x31 it is very hard to find nuetral. You MUST have the bike rolling usually to get it to go. I usually rock it back and forth about a foot while lightly pressing up and she'll pop in.
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08-06-2010, 02:48 AM	#12
pooty6699 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 29	There is no free play in my clutch, I fine adjusted it and with 1/8 " free play, in gear with clutch engaged it will take off.
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08-27-2010, 12:58 AM	#14
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	clutch adjustment take the lever off of the clutch rod on the motor... move it forward to allow you to move the clutch so you get extra travel.. you will see when you adjust the clutch cable at the motor as much as you can... and then adjust the hand clutch lever more.. you will be able to put the trans in gear with out the bike moving forward... this is the way the clutch has to be.. when clutch is applied... and gear selection is made... THE BIKE SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD... this is a must.. so adjust the clutch as needed.. there is nothing saying about free play.. they always say what I said in large letters.. this means the clutch is working as it should... you have to have so much travel to full release the clutch from the motor.. I do this to all my bikes and atv.s ( T3 ) and all works well.. excellent smooth shifting
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