Go Back   ChinaRiders Forums > General > Off-Topic/General Discussion
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-20-2016, 12:49 AM   #16
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
I agree with using anti-seize on the SS studs.


Any progress on your project?
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2016, 02:33 AM   #17
'16 TT250   '16 TT250 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Hacienda Heights, Ca
Posts: 281
My statement of "bad mix" is strictly from a basic electromotive force standpoint. Sometimes a bad mix is the best available option.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2016, 12:01 AM   #18
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Quote:
Originally Posted by '16 TT250 View Post
My statement of "bad mix" is strictly from a basic electromotive force standpoint. Sometimes a bad mix is the best available option.

Ya, I think the antiseize option is a good one. I'm not sure what kind of weak steel the originals were, but it's a chronic problem I guess.

As far as progress, got the studs in today. Bought the intake manifold gasket kit. Checked to see if the PI intake fits on top the new older non PI engine. Perfect. So, tomorrow and Saturday is going to be a concerted effort to get the old engine out of the truck... I'll get pictures if it's successful.
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2016, 12:54 AM   #19
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Did some research on the 5.4 exhaust manifold studs issue. Looks like, the original studs are too small and soft. So the expansion and contraction of the manifolds breaks them off. And then an exhaust leak develops. Thus, stainless, or, at least harder, studs. Some people recommend loosening and re tightening them every so often too, once replaced. It basically resets them. So, that explains why I had at least 1 shear immediately with almost no pressure. Was already cracked. And, these ones even look good, with little rust. Not sure if stainless will help, but these stainless ones have no shoulder going into the heads so may have a bit more flex? Or ability to resist the stretch? I dunno. In 30k miles I'll know something. Lol. That's the mileage that they start to break then leak.
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2016, 09:46 AM   #20
katoranger   katoranger is offline
 
katoranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Altamont, Kansas
Posts: 15,103
When I pulled my V10 I had about 5 shear off. I will still able to remove the broken parts easily with a vise grip from the heads. The heads are running around on another V10 now.
__________________
You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2016, 03:50 PM   #21
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Head one off... what a pain...
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2016, 05:41 PM   #22
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Passenger side head is ruined. Carnage pictures to follow
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2016, 05:43 PM   #23
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865




__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2016, 05:44 PM   #24
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Driver side head is fine. Passenger side head is ruined. Engine is still stuck. I'm going to raise it up in a few minutes and pull the pan.
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2016, 10:00 PM   #25
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Rod bearings 1 and 2 seized. Evidently, the timing chain guides disintegrated and the small particles plugged the oil pickup. This starved the engine of oil. 1 head, 1 crank and 2 rods - toast. The engine could have been rebuilt tho, but since I have the good one, I'm just going to use it. I was able to loosen the bolts on the 2 rods, push the pistons out the top and get the engine to turn over. 8 more bolts and I should have the engine out of the bay. Whew!
Then I went road hunting for deer. And ate dinner. So, until next time...
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2016, 09:17 AM   #26
katoranger   katoranger is offline
 
katoranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Altamont, Kansas
Posts: 15,103
I had a V10 that I believe hydrolocked from a bad head gasket. Two rods thru the block. Took us awhile to get it out of the van too. I had to pull the intake so that my shop crane would clear the firewall.
__________________
You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2016, 11:25 AM   #27
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by Landsvw View Post
Rod bearings 1 and 2 seized. Evidently, the timing chain guides disintegrated and the small particles plugged the oil pickup. This starved the engine of oil.
Do you plan to replace the chain and guides on your new motor?
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2016, 08:04 PM   #28
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weldangrind View Post
Do you plan to replace the chain and guides on your new motor?
No, I pulled pan and was clean and shiny. Will run it as it sits. Nothing is breaking apart, so no need to mess with it. Not sure why the guides go bad, but

I'll bet it's to do with non frequent oil changes. Dirty oil, wear, overheating etc. my Jeep was the same way at 135k miles. Pieces of the guides in the pan, a blown headgasket, etc. no oil starvation tho, so crank and rods we're fine.
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2016, 11:07 AM   #29
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
I can understand not messing with it if it looks clean. That said, it's easier to replace the chain and guides while it's out of the truck.
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2016, 09:20 PM   #30
Landsvw   Landsvw is offline
 
Landsvw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Myrtle Creek Oregon
Posts: 865
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weldangrind View Post
I can understand not messing with it if it looks clean. That said, it's easier to replace the chain and guides while it's out of the truck.
That's certainly true!
It's a roll the dice kinda deal, and I guess I'll take the chance lol. It may come back to get me, but at the same time, it may go another 100k miles and no probs.
__________________
1988 Kawasaki KLR250
1969 Honda Z50 silver tag
2002 Ford F-350 7.3 diesel
2002 Porsche Boxster S
2017 Chevy Bolt

“Throttle twisting geek” -LFN


 
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.