What is this?

Docwho64 · 09-13-2020, 06:56 PM

I have acquired an atv with a Chang liquid cooled motor. Can’t find any name plates or markings to identify brand, nor have I seen one like it on internet. Seen plenty of the engines, but no atvs. Any ideas what I have? Engine is a cd2p78mv
Not tech savvy, can’t figure out how to add pics from my tablet. Was successful in adding pics to Thumper Talk, but can’t figure this one out.

Bruces · 09-13-2020, 07:07 PM

My magic wand is in the shop ,any chance you could include a picture ?

crabjoe · 09-14-2020, 02:32 PM

Is it the same as this listing on Craigslist?

https://centralmich.craigslist.org/s...172217672.html

franque · 09-14-2020, 05:20 PM

If it's the same one, that's insanely cool. It almost looks like a hoax, but it looks real, looking closer. I have no clue, but I'm fairly certain it's not a liquid cooled engine. Links to your thread on thumper talk?

dirtbkr188 · 09-14-2020, 05:45 PM

Click HERE, franque

Docwho64 · 09-14-2020, 11:46 PM

This is no hoax, and it’s the same one on Craig’s list. Definitely a Chinese engine has a radiator and heads are liquid cooled. No decals on bike, no badges anywhere, no plaques except on engine and it has exact same numbers as stamped on block. This is not an engine swap, this is how it was built. If you run the engine numbers it comes upas a Chang Jiang, but all they show are motorcycles. The only history I have been able to get is that these engines were used by the people’s army in China on their military bikes, then refurbished and installed in new frames for public sale.
Oh, by the way, that cable in the photo is the clutch cable.

franque · 09-15-2020, 03:13 AM

Are you selling it, or did you buy it from that ad? What are you looking for? This is the sort of arcane thing that I'm expecting you won't find out much about, but there's a guy on here, @humanbeing , who might know about these.

How does it run? It seems like it might be a handful.

2LZ · 09-15-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Docwho64

Not tech savvy, can’t figure out how to add pics from my tablet. Was successful in adding pics to Thumper Talk, but can’t figure this one out.

No worries. I haven't been able to post pics either lately.

david3921 · 09-16-2020, 11:39 PM

I don't know a lot about them but the engine was/is used in copies of motorcycles with side cars. Do a Google image search for "Chinese BMW sidecar" and you'll see your engine. Here's an example:

https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/148970700143872416/

franque · 09-17-2020, 02:44 AM

That's generally true, but the CJ750 (Chang Jiang) outfit, to the best of my knowledge, never came with liquid-cooled heads, which this one has, apparently.

Docwho64 · 09-17-2020, 11:55 AM

Dirtbkr188 found my answer, 2002 nanchang aircraft Ming.co it has the Chang engine which the company acquired. It rare to the extent that it was converted to have liquid cooled heads,
Yes, that is my post on Craig’s list to sell, but I am seriously thinking of keeping it now since it’s so unusual. Thing is definitely a handful to ride! Very fast, lots of power. Now I have to find a rear master cylinder replacement, or retrofit one to work if I keep it.
Already had to retrofit the fuel lines, peacock leaked like a sieve! Wouldn’t shut off fuel either.
Took a brass tee and spliced into the line that goes from one side of the tank to the other in the rear where it goes over the frame, and placed an in line shut off and fuel filter in the line to carbs, and capped the old peacock.

david3921 · 09-18-2020, 08:04 AM

Curious, is it 650cc or 750cc? Either way, I believe it when you say it's a handful.

09-13-2020, 06:56 PM	#1
Docwho64 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gladwin, Michigan Posts: 3	What is this? I have acquired an atv with a Chang liquid cooled motor. Can’t find any name plates or markings to identify brand, nor have I seen one like it on internet. Seen plenty of the engines, but no atvs. Any ideas what I have? Engine is a cd2p78mv Not tech savvy, can’t figure out how to add pics from my tablet. Was successful in adding pics to Thumper Talk, but can’t figure this one out. Last edited by Docwho64; 09-13-2020 at 07:18 PM. Reason: Add pics
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09-14-2020, 11:46 PM	#6
Docwho64 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gladwin, Michigan Posts: 3	Response to all. This is no hoax, and it’s the same one on Craig’s list. Definitely a Chinese engine has a radiator and heads are liquid cooled. No decals on bike, no badges anywhere, no plaques except on engine and it has exact same numbers as stamped on block. This is not an engine swap, this is how it was built. If you run the engine numbers it comes upas a Chang Jiang, but all they show are motorcycles. The only history I have been able to get is that these engines were used by the people’s army in China on their military bikes, then refurbished and installed in new frames for public sale. Oh, by the way, that cable in the photo is the clutch cable.
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09-16-2020, 11:39 PM	#9
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,030	I don't know a lot about them but the engine was/is used in copies of motorcycles with side cars. Do a Google image search for "Chinese BMW sidecar" and you'll see your engine. Here's an example: https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/148970700143872416/ __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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09-18-2020, 08:04 AM	#12
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,030	Curious, is it 650cc or 750cc? Either way, I believe it when you say it's a handful. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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09-13-2020, 07:07 PM	#2
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,579	My magic wand is in the shop ,any chance you could include a picture ?
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09-14-2020, 02:32 PM	#3
crabjoe Join Date: May 2020 Location: Ceciltucky Posts: 188	Is it the same as this listing on Craigslist? https://centralmich.craigslist.org/s...172217672.html
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09-14-2020, 05:20 PM	#4
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	If it's the same one, that's insanely cool. It almost looks like a hoax, but it looks real, looking closer. I have no clue, but I'm fairly certain it's not a liquid cooled engine. Links to your thread on thumper talk?
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09-14-2020, 05:45 PM	#5
dirtbkr188 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 504	Click HERE, franque
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09-15-2020, 03:13 AM	#7
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	Are you selling it, or did you buy it from that ad? What are you looking for? This is the sort of arcane thing that I'm expecting you won't find out much about, but there's a guy on here, @humanbeing , who might know about these. How does it run? It seems like it might be a handful.
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09-17-2020, 02:44 AM	#10
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	That's generally true, but the CJ750 (Chang Jiang) outfit, to the best of my knowledge, never came with liquid-cooled heads, which this one has, apparently.
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09-17-2020, 11:55 AM	#11
Docwho64 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Gladwin, Michigan Posts: 3	Dirtbkr188 found my answer, 2002 nanchang aircraft Ming.co it has the Chang engine which the company acquired. It rare to the extent that it was converted to have liquid cooled heads, Yes, that is my post on Craig’s list to sell, but I am seriously thinking of keeping it now since it’s so unusual. Thing is definitely a handful to ride! Very fast, lots of power. Now I have to find a rear master cylinder replacement, or retrofit one to work if I keep it. Already had to retrofit the fuel lines, peacock leaked like a sieve! Wouldn’t shut off fuel either. Took a brass tee and spliced into the line that goes from one side of the tank to the other in the rear where it goes over the frame, and placed an in line shut off and fuel filter in the line to carbs, and capped the old peacock.
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