Hawk 250 supercharger

JohnDoe2887 · 07-04-2016, 09:16 PM

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone has put a supercharger on a hawk 250? I ask that because why not? I know I could rig something up just don't know how well it would work. Also felt like it was worth asking about before I try and do it and see what others have tried....

BlackBike · 07-04-2016, 10:37 PM

I have read comments from some of the vets on this site that it's a bit risky for these little motors because parts aren't "proformance " rated.

w0ss · 07-05-2016, 12:07 AM

I was reading about people using smog pumps as superchargers on small engines. I don't think I will ever try but it's nice to think about.

JohnDoe2887 · 07-05-2016, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by w0ss

I was reading about people using smog pumps as superchargers on small engines. I don't think I will ever try but it's nice to think about.

Interesting, I was thinking of putting a battery of sterling engines on the exhaust, just a thought though and I guess more of a turbo then a super.... (point stands) while you may not get more than 4-5 psi hey its something.... Good to know about the smog pump I will most likely try that....

BlackBike · 07-05-2016, 12:45 AM

I think I seen electric blowers on the Web for about 75.00 not sure how they work

Azhule · 07-05-2016, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike

I think I seen electric blowers on the Web for about 75.00 not sure how they work

Or you can wire up a computer fan and get similar results for about $8

Seriously though... don't spend your cash on that crap... it's just a small fan that does nothing but cause air flow problems

BlackBike · 07-05-2016, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Azhule

Or you can wire up a computer fan and get similar results for about $8

Seriously though... don't spend your cash on that crap... it's just a small fan that does nothing but cause air flow problems

Believe me AZ, I'm not doing any mods that would popcorn my motor. Snap, crackle, POP!

Azhule · 07-05-2016, 01:24 AM

As for the actual project, I look forward to seeing what you do

I'm all for 'More (reliable) POWER!' by any means

'16 TT250 · 07-05-2016, 12:31 PM

A smog pump won't work and neither will one of those electric blowers. To supercharge it you'll have to rig a way to get a pulley onto the crank or drive it off the chain but then it'll only work at high speed. A turbo would work but it's gonna be hard to find an adequate one without dropping a bunch of $. Either way you'll have to figure out plumbing, carb set-up, timing retard, possibly lower compression, possibly a fuel pump, etc. Unless you can design, build, and install the majority of the stuff yourself it'll probably be cheaper to just buy a more powerful engine.

A nitrous set-up would be cheaper and much easier. Being that it's so cold entering the engine it helps off-set the extra heat made by the extra power, especially when compared to the super heated air off a turbo or SC.

I've searched a bit and haven't found anyone who's done nos or forced induction on a china bike so no clue how much the motor will handle before blowing.

w0ss · 07-05-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by '16 TT250

A smog pump won't work and neither will one of those electric blowers...

The smog pumps have been done by others you can see video of it on youtube. Would need to rig up a pulley for those. There are also some electric smog pumps not sure if those would work. I also doubt the stator puts out enough juice to keep it running.

pcspecialist · 07-05-2016, 01:22 PM

NOS is the only thing I would even begin to humor.

jaymalmat · 07-05-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist

NOS is the only thing I would even begin to humor.

Like this one. Lol

hertz9753 · 07-05-2016, 05:55 PM

Nos!

JohnDoe2887 · 07-05-2016, 08:47 PM

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Like this one. Lol

That looks expensive to run.... I think a foger system under the carb then that.... I have been looking for a excuse to build a spark mill for awhile now....

JohnDoe2887 · 07-05-2016, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Azhule

Or you can wire up a computer fan and get similar results for about $8

Seriously though... don't spend your cash on that crap... it's just a small fan that does nothing but cause air flow problems

I heard of one that does in fact work, catch being it only makes 4 psi and lasts about 10 seconds before the battery dies....

07-04-2016, 09:16 PM	#1
JohnDoe2887 Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 60	Hawk 250 supercharger Hey guys I was wondering if anyone has put a supercharger on a hawk 250? I ask that because why not? I know I could rig something up just don't know how well it would work. Also felt like it was worth asking about before I try and do it and see what others have tried....
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07-04-2016, 10:37 PM	#2
BlackBike Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: George West, Texas Posts: 4,097	I have read comments from some of the vets on this site that it's a bit risky for these little motors because parts aren't "proformance " rated. __________________ ***************************************** 2015 Bashan"Blaze" BS250GY-31 (DB-07K-250) GONE 2017 Suzuki V Strom 650 XT "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~Benjamin Franklin~
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07-05-2016, 12:07 AM	#3
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	I was reading about people using smog pumps as superchargers on small engines. I don't think I will ever try but it's nice to think about. __________________ Hawk 250 with following performance mods: 17t, Mikuni with 110/25, Uni filter, Exhaust.
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07-05-2016, 12:45 AM	#5
BlackBike Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: George West, Texas Posts: 4,097	I think I seen electric blowers on the Web for about 75.00 not sure how they work __________________ ***************************************** 2015 Bashan"Blaze" BS250GY-31 (DB-07K-250) GONE 2017 Suzuki V Strom 650 XT "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~Benjamin Franklin~
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07-05-2016, 01:24 AM	#8
Azhule Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CO Posts: 1,525	As for the actual project, I look forward to seeing what you do I'm all for 'More (reliable) POWER!' by any means __________________ "Think as you like... but this self proclaimed Professor is always right" - Buckshot "You never know what someone is hiding beneath their smile..." - NinjaTom - R.I.P.
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07-05-2016, 12:31 PM	#9
'16 TT250 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Hacienda Heights, Ca Posts: 281	A smog pump won't work and neither will one of those electric blowers. To supercharge it you'll have to rig a way to get a pulley onto the crank or drive it off the chain but then it'll only work at high speed. A turbo would work but it's gonna be hard to find an adequate one without dropping a bunch of $. Either way you'll have to figure out plumbing, carb set-up, timing retard, possibly lower compression, possibly a fuel pump, etc. Unless you can design, build, and install the majority of the stuff yourself it'll probably be cheaper to just buy a more powerful engine. A nitrous set-up would be cheaper and much easier. Being that it's so cold entering the engine it helps off-set the extra heat made by the extra power, especially when compared to the super heated air off a turbo or SC. I've searched a bit and haven't found anyone who's done nos or forced induction on a china bike so no clue how much the motor will handle before blowing.
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07-05-2016, 01:22 PM	#11
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	NOS is the only thing I would even begin to humor.
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