TMEC-200 Dual Sport Bike - Page 2

FastDoc · 02-27-2010, 08:43 PM

It does not appear countrbalanced.

Lifanoid OHV's with a CB have a bulge on the lower front of the crankcase, pretty prominant. The possible lack out of a counterbalancer is not a problem though. I've had both types of Lifanoids and could not tell the difference and the CB saps some precious HP from an already low powered engine.

alan566 · 02-27-2010, 09:21 PM

thats a good looking bike!

Oengus · 03-01-2010, 12:20 AM

TMEC contact person as follows:

TMEC POWER INC
2125 WRIGHT AVE. C10
LA VERNE, CA91750
TEL: 909-680-5958
FAX: 909-593-1688
MR BENJAMING YU
MOBILE: 9099790411
EMAIL: "benjaming_yu" <benjaming_yu@hotmail.com>

Oengus · 03-01-2010, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc

It does not appear countrbalanced.

Lifanoid OHV's with a CB have a bulge on the lower front of the crankcase, pretty prominant. The possible lack out of a counterbalancer is not a problem though. I've had both types of Lifanoids and could not tell the difference and the CB saps some precious HP from an already low powered engine.

Is that an OHV engine on the TMEC, according to the manufacturer this is the engine on the bike.

Which engine is it?

OHV

OHC

Oengus · 03-01-2010, 01:31 AM

We are doing a good job identifying this product, the bike could have an OHV, on that bikeâ€¦but I think it is an OHC Lifan 163FML and not hard to get parts for.

You could call the number I posted, I emailed the manufacturer (TMEC)and asked who is the distributor in the USA.

What I got back I posted.

Thatâ€™s the distributor contact info; they want to sell bikesâ€¦.they want to get the products out, if a dealer is selling them for that low of a price then the distributor can get them for even less.

You can get one and bet you could buy it from or through a local dealer with a warranty, call the distributor and then call a dealer that sells Chinese bikes near you. You in this market can actually bring a distributor to your area, the dealer can take delivery for you and taking that approach can get a mechanic to inspect it and tune it and also get you a factory warranty.

katoranger · 03-01-2010, 08:35 AM

I could be wrong on the engine, but it has that little round access plug on the left of the cylinder that usually indicated OHV. I can't really see the top of the engine on the bike to be sure, but the OHC engines didn't seem to have that. They had the big cam gear cover at the top and the best way to tell was the two round access plugs on the valve cover.

Oengus · 03-01-2010, 10:28 AM

Oh yeah it does have that plug on the sideâ€¦.

I would call the dealer and ask what the VIN is and then call the distributor, with that and ask about what engines they use.

Then what engine would the bikes being sold have specifically for the color bike you want and what engine that bike has, it would be interesting to see if the distributor has that information, that being details of the dealers inventory.

The engines both retail for about the same price so then what if you did get one that did not wear in well and had to be replaced? If the distributor speaks poor English ask â€œwhat warranty on engine.â€

It would be the same scenario if the engine on the bike blew, so calling first gives you an idea of who you would deal with.

The OHV has lower rpm then the OHC and a different power curve, the OHC is a little better performer if its well made.

The dealer and distributors all have contacts or should for logistics, shipping is cheaper if done depot to depot. I would want it shipped to a local dealer bet that the distributor could use your interest in the bike to establish one in your areaâ€¦.its what they do.

The warranty is in part the distributors ability to get the parts at cost from the factory, if factory backed then free.

It seems that bike is basically a Lifan engine with a more modern looking bike surrounding it, except for the speedo.

I do not know about the rest of youâ€¦but I like having a tachometer. I like to see the idle and the rpm when shifting.

There really is no problem with the OHV is there? Prone to vibrations? Is that why all the nuts and bolts come loose on the bikes, they basically vibrate out?

katoranger · 03-01-2010, 10:34 AM

I have the OHV engine with 10K miles on it. Good low end power. Solid, but did have some vibes too it. Not bad though.

Nothing wrong with it, just not the high revver like the OHC engine.

FastDoc · 03-01-2010, 11:16 AM

Having owned both my preference for the OHC is very strong. The OHV runs out of breath very early in the rev band compared to the OHC. CC for cc, the OHC produces more power.

Off road the OHV was OK, but on the street the high RPM power restriction is significant.

Again, as always. IMHO. :roll:

Oengus · 03-01-2010, 11:19 AM

the manufacturer may use both?

the distributor may have access to the latest bikes.

I am not in the market but if I was I would consider a Lifan variant the parts are everywhere.

TMEC was at the dealer expo so getting one would more than likely get supported at least long enough to break it in. They are also selling in Europe so they should have systems in place, support systems.

You are always dealing with a hit or miss on the Chinese bikes, thatâ€™s why having contacts are important, just warranty on the engine. A dealer with a mechanic is best, even if you can do it yourself why should you they are the ones that are selling it, its new not used they should back it. At least the parts at least the engine.

If you trying to stay under $1800.00 this bike looks like it could easily and its not as ugly as a GY-5.

The black one looks very cool, even the engine is blacked out and the rims that match the forks...not a bad look.

FastDoc · 03-01-2010, 11:35 AM

If you trying to stay under $1800.00 this bike looks like it could easily and its not as ugly as a GY-5.

Depends on how hard it is to pull the decals off. :roll:

SpudRider · 03-01-2010, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc

If you trying to stay under $1800.00 this bike looks like it could easily and its not as ugly as a GY-5.

Depends on how hard it is to pull the decals off. :roll:

I agree; the decals would have to go.

Minus the decals, the bike is attractive. I like the alloy rims on this bike. The claimed net weight for this motorcycle is 271 pounds, and the bike has a 3.17-gallon fuel tank. I also like the option to switch between the 17-inch supermoto wheels, and the dual sport wheels for this bike.

I saw the red, supermoto version of this motorcycle at the Utah State Fair; the colors and decals were too gaudy for my tastes. However, the bike seems to be well built. I would certainly prefer the OHC engine.

Spud

katoranger · 03-01-2010, 04:25 PM

I don't have experience on the OHC engine, but I could pull an actual 68mph with my OHV engine. It didn't like to rev above 9k though.

I believe the OHC is a much better design for the street though. I tortured my OHV from day one and it kept going.

FastDoc · 03-01-2010, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger

I don't have experience on the OHC engine, but I could pull an actual 68mph with my OHV engine. It didn't like to rev above 9k though.

I believe the OHC is a much better design for the street though. I tortured my OHV from day one and it kept going.

In 100% stock form my OHV would pull to 7500-8000 and then........nothing. Even in the lower gears.

katoranger · 03-01-2010, 05:28 PM

Mine too. I was able to get alittle more with the carb and exhaust mods.

02-27-2010, 08:43 PM	#16
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	It does not appear countrbalanced. Lifanoid OHV's with a CB have a bulge on the lower front of the crankcase, pretty prominant. The possible lack out of a counterbalancer is not a problem though. I've had both types of Lifanoids and could not tell the difference and the CB saps some precious HP from an already low powered engine. __________________ Happy to serve.
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03-01-2010, 08:35 AM	#21
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I could be wrong on the engine, but it has that little round access plug on the left of the cylinder that usually indicated OHV. I can't really see the top of the engine on the bike to be sure, but the OHC engines didn't seem to have that. They had the big cam gear cover at the top and the best way to tell was the two round access plugs on the valve cover. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-01-2010, 10:34 AM	#23
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I have the OHV engine with 10K miles on it. Good low end power. Solid, but did have some vibes too it. Not bad though. Nothing wrong with it, just not the high revver like the OHC engine. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-01-2010, 11:16 AM	#24
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Having owned both my preference for the OHC is very strong. The OHV runs out of breath very early in the rev band compared to the OHC. CC for cc, the OHC produces more power. Off road the OHV was OK, but on the street the high RPM power restriction is significant. Again, as always. IMHO. :roll: __________________ Happy to serve.
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03-01-2010, 11:35 AM	#26
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	If you trying to stay under $1800.00 this bike looks like it could easily and its not as ugly as a GY-5. Depends on how hard it is to pull the decals off. :roll: __________________ Happy to serve.
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02-27-2010, 09:21 PM	#17
alan566 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hartwell, GA Posts: 187	thats a good looking bike!
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03-01-2010, 12:20 AM	#18
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	TMEC contact person as follows: TMEC POWER INC 2125 WRIGHT AVE. C10 LA VERNE, CA91750 TEL: 909-680-5958 FAX: 909-593-1688 MR BENJAMING YU MOBILE: 9099790411 EMAIL: "benjaming_yu" <benjaming_yu@hotmail.com>
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03-01-2010, 01:31 AM	#20
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	We are doing a good job identifying this product, the bike could have an OHV, on that bikeâ€¦but I think it is an OHC Lifan 163FML and not hard to get parts for. You could call the number I posted, I emailed the manufacturer (TMEC)and asked who is the distributor in the USA. What I got back I posted. Thatâ€™s the distributor contact info; they want to sell bikesâ€¦.they want to get the products out, if a dealer is selling them for that low of a price then the distributor can get them for even less. You can get one and bet you could buy it from or through a local dealer with a warranty, call the distributor and then call a dealer that sells Chinese bikes near you. You in this market can actually bring a distributor to your area, the dealer can take delivery for you and taking that approach can get a mechanic to inspect it and tune it and also get you a factory warranty.
	0

03-01-2010, 10:28 AM	#22
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	Oh yeah it does have that plug on the sideâ€¦. I would call the dealer and ask what the VIN is and then call the distributor, with that and ask about what engines they use. Then what engine would the bikes being sold have specifically for the color bike you want and what engine that bike has, it would be interesting to see if the distributor has that information, that being details of the dealers inventory. The engines both retail for about the same price so then what if you did get one that did not wear in well and had to be replaced? If the distributor speaks poor English ask â€œwhat warranty on engine.â€ It would be the same scenario if the engine on the bike blew, so calling first gives you an idea of who you would deal with. The OHV has lower rpm then the OHC and a different power curve, the OHC is a little better performer if its well made. The dealer and distributors all have contacts or should for logistics, shipping is cheaper if done depot to depot. I would want it shipped to a local dealer bet that the distributor could use your interest in the bike to establish one in your areaâ€¦.its what they do. The warranty is in part the distributors ability to get the parts at cost from the factory, if factory backed then free. It seems that bike is basically a Lifan engine with a more modern looking bike surrounding it, except for the speedo. I do not know about the rest of youâ€¦but I like having a tachometer. I like to see the idle and the rpm when shifting. There really is no problem with the OHV is there? Prone to vibrations? Is that why all the nuts and bolts come loose on the bikes, they basically vibrate out?
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03-01-2010, 11:19 AM	#25
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	the manufacturer may use both? the distributor may have access to the latest bikes. I am not in the market but if I was I would consider a Lifan variant the parts are everywhere. TMEC was at the dealer expo so getting one would more than likely get supported at least long enough to break it in. They are also selling in Europe so they should have systems in place, support systems. You are always dealing with a hit or miss on the Chinese bikes, thatâ€™s why having contacts are important, just warranty on the engine. A dealer with a mechanic is best, even if you can do it yourself why should you they are the ones that are selling it, its new not used they should back it. At least the parts at least the engine. If you trying to stay under $1800.00 this bike looks like it could easily and its not as ugly as a GY-5. The black one looks very cool, even the engine is blacked out and the rims that match the forks...not a bad look.
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03-01-2010, 04:25 PM	#28
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I don't have experience on the OHC engine, but I could pull an actual 68mph with my OHV engine. It didn't like to rev above 9k though. I believe the OHC is a much better design for the street though. I tortured my OHV from day one and it kept going. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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03-01-2010, 05:28 PM	#30
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Mine too. I was able to get alittle more with the carb and exhaust mods. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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