Tao Tao bull200

JRG3 · 02-16-2018, 09:28 PM

Anyone own a new bull 200? I’m seriously considering buying one for myself to ride with my kids. Not sure if I want the bull or the rhino

Mudflap · 02-17-2018, 06:27 AM

I suppose the main difference is the Bull uses a 170cc scooter type engine while the Rino uses the 200cc motorcycle type engine. Aluminum wheels on the Bull look nice.

Darth Racer · 02-17-2018, 09:17 AM

Yeah the new TaoTao's are looking nice ... can see myself getting a set of those aluminum rims.

losdario · 02-20-2018, 07:37 PM

I have 2 coolster 3150 dx2s already but really thinking about adding one of these. Looks like they really stepped it up. Their are a few videos up on YouTube already.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-21-2018, 10:51 AM

I like all the new features on the Bull 200 including the extra HP of the 169cc engine. The only con I could find would be that there is no kick start on the 169cc. No way to start it if the battery craps out on the trails unless you have jumper cables or pull the battery off another ATV. I had battery issues last year out on the trails and the kick start came in handy.

Darth Racer · 02-21-2018, 05:29 PM

I wish I could figure out a way to put a kickstart on my Rhino... cant find the mechanicals and covers to do it... figured it was the same as a dirt bike engine and could just make a custom kick lever.

I carry one of those LiPo jump start packs with me.. but wont do squat if the starter ever dies.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-21-2018, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Racer

I wish I could figure out a way to put a kickstart on my Rhino... cant find the mechanicals and covers to do it... figured it was the same as a dirt bike engine and could just make a custom kick lever.

I carry one of those LiPo jump start packs with me.. but wont do squat if the starter ever dies.

At least with the manual clutch someone could push or pull you with another ATV and just pop the clutch to start it. No can do with the auto clutch.

kpb · 03-09-2018, 09:46 PM

Hi all, new to the forum! Looking at the Rhino 250 or the new Bull 200 and wondering how reliable the bull 170cc motor would be compared to the Rhino.

culcune · 03-10-2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kpb

Hi all, new to the forum! Looking at the Rhino 250 or the new Bull 200 and wondering how reliable the bull 170cc motor would be compared to the Rhino.

Just taking a guess, but not necessarily a comparison, I understand that Taotao's scooter engines are very reliable (by those who own them and maintain them properly and regularly according to people on 49ccscoot.proboards.com/ Since this ATV is new, there is no data specifically on them, but Taotao scooters do well, so you should be alright.

According to people here, their Rhinos are serving them very well.

So--no clear answer, LOL

Based on what I know, however, I personally would lean to the Rhino. 'What I know' is the knowledge and experience of members here with Rhinos and those members in general with 200/223/229/etc. vertical thumpers vs. those with the horizontal ATVs. But, there will be those who chime in having few to no issues with scooter-style GY6 engines, so wait for those opinions, too. My guess is you cannot go necessarily 'wrong' with either.

goldstryker88 · 03-10-2018, 11:00 AM

https://www.wmsbrighton.com/ProductD...iABEgKG1vD_BwE

goldstryker88 · 03-10-2018, 11:03 AM

I know you're comparing the Bull 200 to the Rhino but thought I'd post the 150 to 200 comparison because it shows much has changed and that it seems much of the Bull 150 hardware is also on the Rhino. Seems they really have improved things.

david3921 · 03-10-2018, 12:11 PM

It looks like, at least for now, that the Bull is around $200 more expensive with some great and interesting new features. What someone is going to use their ATV for will be the determining factor if these new additions are worth it. Do you need a speedometer? Gear indicator? Hours meter? Maybe. The hours meter is useful in determining when to change the oil. The disk brakes all around contribute to safety as the Rhino front brakes are shoe and not, well, good. Do you need the bling, and weight savings, of the alloy wheels? Will you need the headlights? The lighting looks like it's better but that can be solved by adding aux. lighting as many of us have done. I guess if I was in the market again, I would probably choose the Bull. I don't use it daily and, sometimes, not even weekly. Darth and 2LZ use their Rhinos as work horses and a Bull might not measure up with it's smaller motor. But I'm sure both would agree that the hours meter and disk brakes would an asset on the Rhino that the owners of (myself included) would love to have.

kpb · 03-10-2018, 01:39 PM

Hey guys thanks for the responses, I would love to hear more! I like the features of the new Bull 200 vs the Rhino 250, especially for the difference in price. I don't think I will be using it every day, just now and then, and I would most likely ride trails/hills and such. I was concerned about the Bull cooling fan intake; seems like you would suck in water/mud if you did any water crossings. Maybe that's not an issue. My wife and kids might be better suited for the CVT type transmission in the Bull vs the manual in the Rhino. If I just bought them both I would be happy, but the wife.......well you know how that would go. Any body else have any input, I am still weighing the differences.

Darth Racer · 03-10-2018, 05:21 PM

Yeah my Rhino is usually ridden hard and put away wet and muddy.

If I was to get a Bull I would probably mess with the sprockets/pulleys/springs for more low end torque. I hear the 150cc engines (GY6) have a decent amount of pull... so the 170cc is probably a little better.

Would probably add a Magoonie carb to the Bull as well while I'm at it for some more pep.

You can add a aftermarket hour meter for 10$ they usually also have a tach in the same unit. The gear indicator is a nice option to have.

The brakes on the Rhino work fine for me even with the heavy load in tow.... I can stop on a steep incline.

Really though I see the Bull and just want a set of rims for the Rhino ... LOL if you get it will trade you some black steel rims from the Rhino.

culcune · 03-11-2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kpb

. My wife and kids might be better suited for the CVT type transmission in the Bull vs the manual in the Rhino..

Not that manual gears are rocket science, but with family riding becoming a factor, I would lean to the Bull for ease of use The great reviews of our Rhino members are mostly those using them as workhorses vs. recreational vehicles. But, there is that very tempting price on the Rhino...

02-16-2018, 09:28 PM	#1
JRG3 Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 20	Tao Tao bull200 Anyone own a new bull 200? I’m seriously considering buying one for myself to ride with my kids. Not sure if I want the bull or the rhino
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02-21-2018, 10:51 AM	#5
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,517	I like all the new features on the Bull 200 including the extra HP of the 169cc engine. The only con I could find would be that there is no kick start on the 169cc. No way to start it if the battery craps out on the trails unless you have jumper cables or pull the battery off another ATV. I had battery issues last year out on the trails and the kick start came in handy. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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03-10-2018, 11:00 AM	#10
goldstryker88 Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 43	Side by side comparison between Bull 150 and Bull 200 (scroll down) https://www.wmsbrighton.com/ProductD...iABEgKG1vD_BwE
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03-10-2018, 12:11 PM	#12
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,022	It looks like, at least for now, that the Bull is around $200 more expensive with some great and interesting new features. What someone is going to use their ATV for will be the determining factor if these new additions are worth it. Do you need a speedometer? Gear indicator? Hours meter? Maybe. The hours meter is useful in determining when to change the oil. The disk brakes all around contribute to safety as the Rhino front brakes are shoe and not, well, good. Do you need the bling, and weight savings, of the alloy wheels? Will you need the headlights? The lighting looks like it's better but that can be solved by adding aux. lighting as many of us have done. I guess if I was in the market again, I would probably choose the Bull. I don't use it daily and, sometimes, not even weekly. Darth and 2LZ use their Rhinos as work horses and a Bull might not measure up with it's smaller motor. But I'm sure both would agree that the hours meter and disk brakes would an asset on the Rhino that the owners of (myself included) would love to have. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D Last edited by david3921; 01-09-2023 at 04:12 PM.
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02-17-2018, 06:27 AM	#2
Mudflap Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,869	I suppose the main difference is the Bull uses a 170cc scooter type engine while the Rino uses the 200cc motorcycle type engine. Aluminum wheels on the Bull look nice.
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02-17-2018, 09:17 AM	#3
Darth Racer Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: MD Posts: 558	Yeah the new TaoTao's are looking nice ... can see myself getting a set of those aluminum rims.
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02-20-2018, 07:37 PM	#4
losdario Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 6	I have 2 coolster 3150 dx2s already but really thinking about adding one of these. Looks like they really stepped it up. Their are a few videos up on YouTube already.
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02-21-2018, 05:29 PM	#6
Darth Racer Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: MD Posts: 558	I wish I could figure out a way to put a kickstart on my Rhino... cant find the mechanicals and covers to do it... figured it was the same as a dirt bike engine and could just make a custom kick lever. I carry one of those LiPo jump start packs with me.. but wont do squat if the starter ever dies.
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03-09-2018, 09:46 PM	#8
kpb Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 5	Hi all, new to the forum! Looking at the Rhino 250 or the new Bull 200 and wondering how reliable the bull 170cc motor would be compared to the Rhino.
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03-10-2018, 11:03 AM	#11
goldstryker88 Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 43	I know you're comparing the Bull 200 to the Rhino but thought I'd post the 150 to 200 comparison because it shows much has changed and that it seems much of the Bull 150 hardware is also on the Rhino. Seems they really have improved things.
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03-10-2018, 01:39 PM	#13
kpb Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 5	Hey guys thanks for the responses, I would love to hear more! I like the features of the new Bull 200 vs the Rhino 250, especially for the difference in price. I don't think I will be using it every day, just now and then, and I would most likely ride trails/hills and such. I was concerned about the Bull cooling fan intake; seems like you would suck in water/mud if you did any water crossings. Maybe that's not an issue. My wife and kids might be better suited for the CVT type transmission in the Bull vs the manual in the Rhino. If I just bought them both I would be happy, but the wife.......well you know how that would go. Any body else have any input, I am still weighing the differences.
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03-10-2018, 05:21 PM	#14
Darth Racer Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: MD Posts: 558	Yeah my Rhino is usually ridden hard and put away wet and muddy. If I was to get a Bull I would probably mess with the sprockets/pulleys/springs for more low end torque. I hear the 150cc engines (GY6) have a decent amount of pull... so the 170cc is probably a little better. Would probably add a Magoonie carb to the Bull as well while I'm at it for some more pep. You can add a aftermarket hour meter for 10$ they usually also have a tach in the same unit. The gear indicator is a nice option to have. The brakes on the Rhino work fine for me even with the heavy load in tow.... I can stop on a steep incline. Really though I see the Bull and just want a set of rims for the Rhino ... LOL if you get it will trade you some black steel rims from the Rhino.
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