New Bike in Upstate, NY!! BROZZ - Page 4

Merlin · 09-22-2016, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SANY

Totally bummed. 3 weeks since delivery and nothing but the run-around..The bike is probably going back.

Motobuys.com

Good luck I hope it works out for you. In my case I got my MSO but also got a junk bike that cant be ridden at 165 miles. (defective rear wheel as well as a bunch of other stuff) and I have not been able to get ANY of the help I need to fix it. At this stage I wish I could return this bike and I wish I never got into this china bike mess.

motorcyclelove · 09-23-2016, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

Good luck I hope it works out for you. In my case I got my MSO but also got a junk bike that cant be ridden at 165 miles. (defective rear wheel as well as a bunch of other stuff) and I have not been able to get ANY of the help I need to fix it. At this stage I wish I could return this bike and I wish I never got into this china bike mess.

Yeah, I was close to pulling the trigger on a magacian because I'm on a tight budget but after all the horror stories I've read online no deal. I'm gonna keep saving and buy a used jap bike. Damn all the nonsense to save $800 or so.

Merlin · 09-23-2016, 08:05 PM

Well what ever you do dont buy a motorcycle from superiorpowersports.com. There is no after sales support. There warranty seems to be worthless. Iam trying to buy a new wheel from APSC. I have also tried to contact Bashan with no luck. If you get a good bike your good but if you need help or parts you are f ed.

SANY · 09-26-2016, 09:49 AM

I'm fully street legal and going to get my bike. I might get a few weeks worth of riding in before it's time to pack it in for the winter. I'll be back with a review soon!!!

SANY · 10-01-2016, 10:51 PM

Got about 250 miles on it and only lost one heat shield nut. As you can see from the pic there's far too much territory to cover before snowfall for me to be spending too much time posting. I mounted my cheapo GoPro knock-off today and I'll be gathering some footage for a more in depth look.. Until then, ride on my Brothers!!

culcune · 10-02-2016, 12:23 AM

I am going to have Excalibur get one of these for me, I think. Alan from Excalibur got to see one in person at Kandi's headquarters, and was impressed. He thinks, on initial inspection, that these are better than the TMEC bikes they used to carry, from a fit and finish point of view. Glad to see that you got the paperwork sorted out, and for me, that is why I want my friends to get the bike for me, rather than a random mail-order outfit, even if one of them is in my state (Motobuys). I don't have time to waste going back and forth trying to obtain paperwork.

What is the rear sprocket?

SANY · 10-02-2016, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by culcune

I am going to have Excalibur get one of these for me, I think. Alan from Excalibur got to see one in person at Kandi's headquarters, and was impressed. He thinks, on initial inspection, that these are better than the TMEC bikes they used to carry, from a fit and finish point of view. Glad to see that you got the paperwork sorted out, and for me, that is why I want my friends to get the bike for me, rather than a random mail-order outfit, even if one of them is in my state (Motobuys). I don't have time to waste going back and forth trying to obtain paperwork.

What is the rear sprocket?

Just be sure the title(MSO) reads "Motorcycle" and not "Dirt Bike" or you won"t be able to register it. Not sure about the sprockets yet. I just know it'll go 55MPH all day long, 67MPH top speed on flat ground with my 225lb butt on it. A lot of people here ask questions about it and one guy said he's pay me 2200 bucks for it... I don't have enough experience with China bikes to compare it to anything, but this is a very nice bike, solid build, plenty of power, handles very well and corners superbly. I had an old honda XR650L and this bike reminds me of that one, only with about a third of the power and better COG..

culcune · 10-02-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SANY

Just be sure the title(MSO) reads "Motorcycle" and not "Dirt Bike" or you won"t be able to register it.

I live in Arizona, so no problems with that, no matter what the MSO has written on it, LOL

These bikes appear on the EPA/DOT certified on-highway for 2016 list, so are certified for 49 states. Certain states, like your neighboring one, New Jersey, refer to bikes that are EPA/DOT certified, on their own web site, and continuously add to the list of vehicles they will title and plate, so these should appear on that list.

The Hawk, on the other hand, could be hit or miss depending on state. Those bikes appear on the EPA list of certified 'off-road' bikes. Some MSOs are fudged and state 'motorcycle', and certain states who scrutinize MSOs will plate/title them, but there seems to be a growing list of states that go by the certified EPA/DOT list for 'on-highway' vehicles, and will not plate/title Hawks, i.e New Jersey. Some people are finding that their state used to plate bikes based on minimal street equipment (which the Hawk will easily meet), but no longer do so, which appears to be the case for Georgia. New Jersey won't plate them because they do not appear on the EPA/DOT list. I think New York had a loophole for them at first, but caught on and no longer plate them.

I just wanted to clarify what you stated so people can understand that the Brozz should not be a problem to plate in every state but Calfornia, and the Hawk will have problems in many states. I do know that in some states, such as Connecticut, there are issues with plating vehicles if the vehicles are sold directly by mfg., such as Tesla. Those states want a dealer or at least a dealer license for mfg to sell vehicles directly. I am not sure if one of our members ever resolved her issue with her CSC Zongshen RX3 in Connecticut, but I guess if CSC is interpreted to be the US mfg of record (perhaps those states go by importer/distributor), and no dealers are in place, then CSC will have (or did if it is resolved) some issues in those states even if they are certified federally as on-highway--those states are the oddball exception, however, and I am pretty sure a mail-ordered bike like the Brozz, ordered via a retailer, such as Motobuys, will not fall into that category.

New York should not have had issues, as was your case (issues as far as the dept of motor vehicles registering/plating a bike goes).

BlackBike · 10-02-2016, 03:13 PM

Since I have been hanging around here , culcune has always been "the list meister" keeping up with the EPA certificated bikes. I could see nothing more boring but he surly is the undisputed in house expert on the subject.

BARLOW · 10-10-2016, 01:10 AM

i sure do like the look of that bike ... it seems to share some things with the storm

culcune · 10-10-2016, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike

Since I have been hanging around here , culcune has always been "the list meister" keeping up with the EPA certificated bikes. I could see nothing more boring but he surly is the undisputed in house expert on the subject.

I like looking through the lists to see which bikes that we have been teased with (i.e. SSR's street bike lineup http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/...reet-index.php ) get certified. Also, to see bikes I have never heard of (most of those end up being yet another boring 49cc or 150cc scooter--like those huge listings of scooters on those mail-order sites), but sometimes there are upcoming bikes no one has heard of.

Oengus · 10-10-2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

I like looking through the lists to see which bikes that we have been teased with (i.e. SSR's street bike lineup http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/...reet-index.php ) get certified. Also, to see bikes I have never heard of (most of those end up being yet another boring 49cc or 150cc scooter--like those huge listings of scooters on those mail-order sites), but sometimes there are upcoming bikes no one has heard of.

http://en.qingqi.com.cn/resource/ima...8144806502.jpg
http://en.qingqi.com.cn/resource/ima...1913360143.jpg

I would like to see SSR upgrade from the DALONG manufactured models to those offered from Qingqi.
Dalong is “Pioneer”.

A QM250GY-H(ASD) Motard and their QM250-2X Standard under $3,200.00 delivered. They should have CV carbs not EFI and service shop manuals.

SANY · 10-15-2016, 10:35 PM

Weldangrind · 10-16-2016, 11:51 AM

Man, I wish I had a commute like that. Thanks for the ride!

culcune · 10-16-2016, 12:21 PM

Love the digital speedo. Is it accurate?

09-26-2016, 09:49 AM	#49
SANY Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Saratoga NY Posts: 27	Just got my Plate I'm fully street legal and going to get my bike. I might get a few weeks worth of riding in before it's time to pack it in for the winter. I'll be back with a review soon!!!
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10-02-2016, 12:23 AM	#51
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	I am going to have Excalibur get one of these for me, I think. Alan from Excalibur got to see one in person at Kandi's headquarters, and was impressed. He thinks, on initial inspection, that these are better than the TMEC bikes they used to carry, from a fit and finish point of view. Glad to see that you got the paperwork sorted out, and for me, that is why I want my friends to get the bike for me, rather than a random mail-order outfit, even if one of them is in my state (Motobuys). I don't have time to waste going back and forth trying to obtain paperwork. What is the rear sprocket? __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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10-02-2016, 03:13 PM	#54
BlackBike Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: George West, Texas Posts: 4,097	Since I have been hanging around here , culcune has always been "the list meister" keeping up with the EPA certificated bikes. I could see nothing more boring but he surly is the undisputed in house expert on the subject. __________________ ***************************************** 2015 Bashan"Blaze" BS250GY-31 (DB-07K-250) GONE 2017 Suzuki V Strom 650 XT "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~Benjamin Franklin~
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10-15-2016, 10:35 PM	#58
SANY Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Saratoga NY Posts: 27	700 miles and going great.
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10-16-2016, 11:51 AM	#59
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Man, I wish I had a commute like that. Thanks for the ride! __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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09-23-2016, 08:05 PM	#48
Merlin Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,107	Well what ever you do dont buy a motorcycle from superiorpowersports.com. There is no after sales support. There warranty seems to be worthless. Iam trying to buy a new wheel from APSC. I have also tried to contact Bashan with no luck. If you get a good bike your good but if you need help or parts you are f ed.
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10-10-2016, 01:10 AM	#55
BARLOW Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: central illinois Posts: 362	i sure do like the look of that bike ... it seems to share some things with the storm
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10-16-2016, 12:21 PM	#60
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Love the digital speedo. Is it accurate? __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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