Tao Tao 110 wont start-need some help

ajsmith184 · 07-31-2018, 07:52 PM

Bought last year. Won't start, won't crank. The headlight won't turn on either. I replaced the ignition switch and the starting switch on the handlebar. Good, charged battery. Will start up if I jump the starting solenoid. I tried using a safety pin to bypass the brake switch and see if it would work. No dice. Where should I go next on this? I think it had a remote starter that has since disappeared, was there some lockout or something on that I am not aware of? Thanks, getting desperate because the poor kid wants to ride!

ajsmith184 · 07-31-2018, 08:11 PM

BTW, fuse is good. Could it be a bad solenoid?

bogieboy · 08-01-2018, 06:57 AM

If you have 12v when you press the starter switch on the small wires of the solenoid, and can jump the terminals of the big wore, its a bad solenoid. If you dont have power (with the starter button pressed) on the small wires, something is interry
Upting the signal, i.e. remote box, or a safety switch...

ajsmith184 · 08-01-2018, 08:48 AM

Can the remote start have any kind of lockout or something I am not aware of?

bogieboy · 08-01-2018, 09:51 AM

If it had an alarm/remote start system, yes... they had an ignition cutout on those units.

ajsmith184 · 08-01-2018, 08:14 PM

Thanks for your responses. Is there a wiring diagram or something I can try to figure this out? Or an easy way to bypass it? Like I said no lights or anything but jumping the solenoid works

david3921 · 08-02-2018, 12:07 AM

It sounds like you need a new solenoid. Get a meter and check for voltage out to the starter when pushing the starter button. Obviously there is voltage to it so if there is no voltage out to the starter, the solenoid is bad. They 'click' when working. They are super cheap to replace.

ajsmith184 · 08-03-2018, 08:35 AM

Got one coming, should be here today. Im here in Michigan too, if this doesnt fix it want to make some side $ David?

david3921 · 08-03-2018, 12:10 PM

Let us know how you make out with new part. Hopefully it will be the cure. I'm in the Grand Rapids area and will be glad to help if I can....free of charge.

Edit: I'm not sure how your ATV is set up but my grandson's Tao Tao 125cc's headlight only comes on when it's running.

ajsmith184 · 08-03-2018, 02:38 PM

New one is on...And nothing. Can still jump across the selenoid to start it. Brake light doesnt come on (which I thought would without power but I may be wrong). No crank hitting the buttom. Replaced ignition switch, start switch and solenoid.

Only other thing I can think is the brake switch?

david3921 · 08-03-2018, 07:09 PM

I had a similar issue with the 125cc. I was using the remote to start the ATV when we first got it because I was able to shut it down when the grandson ran into trouble. When he turned 8 I thought it was time to teach him to start it by himself. I found that it wouldn't using the starter button. I also found that the brake light wouldn't work either. It should even without running. I too thought it was the switch and started looking there when I noticed that the brake wires looked pinched. They were and after repairing them, everything worked fine.

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 08-06-2018, 06:51 PM

the brake mirco switch on the handle brake lever... has to be pressed for the brake light to come on... this allows power to the starting system... the power to the solenoic then the ground is activated when you press the start button... you can just jump these wires on the switch to by pass it... you need power at the solenoid wire and then ground to engage it.... this is the 2 wires at the solenoid... this is the MAJOR PROBLEM in this case,.,,, nothing else... if you can jump the solenoid to make it start... then there is no power from the key to the start stop switch system... or the mirco switch is not working properly.... check the wires to see if they asre making the connection.... all you need is a test light.... check for a ground power ... or a positive power... one or the other...

ajsmith184 · 08-08-2018, 05:06 PM

I guess I am confused becasue the brake switch on these is on the brake pedal on the floorboard.

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 08-09-2018, 01:24 PM

on the atvs with a foot brake...... there is a brake switch hooked up to the foot brake system... either in the master cylinder ... on the new ones... or to the pedal system.... IF YOU have a hand brake system on the handle bars... there is a mirco switch..... either way you can by pass it by hooking in a jumper .. or hooking up the 2 wires together ( not rocket science stuff ) and try it..... it is there as a SAFETY SYSTEM.....

07-31-2018, 07:52 PM	#1
ajsmith184 Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7	Tao Tao 110 wont start-need some help Bought last year. Won't start, won't crank. The headlight won't turn on either. I replaced the ignition switch and the starting switch on the handlebar. Good, charged battery. Will start up if I jump the starting solenoid. I tried using a safety pin to bypass the brake switch and see if it would work. No dice. Where should I go next on this? I think it had a remote starter that has since disappeared, was there some lockout or something on that I am not aware of? Thanks, getting desperate because the poor kid wants to ride!
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08-02-2018, 12:07 AM	#7
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,031	It sounds like you need a new solenoid. Get a meter and check for voltage out to the starter when pushing the starter button. Obviously there is voltage to it so if there is no voltage out to the starter, the solenoid is bad. They 'click' when working. They are super cheap to replace. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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08-03-2018, 12:10 PM	#9
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,031	Let us know how you make out with new part. Hopefully it will be the cure. I'm in the Grand Rapids area and will be glad to help if I can....free of charge. Edit: I'm not sure how your ATV is set up but my grandson's Tao Tao 125cc's headlight only comes on when it's running. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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08-03-2018, 07:09 PM	#11
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,031	I had a similar issue with the 125cc. I was using the remote to start the ATV when we first got it because I was able to shut it down when the grandson ran into trouble. When he turned 8 I thought it was time to teach him to start it by himself. I found that it wouldn't using the starter button. I also found that the brake light wouldn't work either. It should even without running. I too thought it was the switch and started looking there when I noticed that the brake wires looked pinched. They were and after repairing them, everything worked fine. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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08-06-2018, 06:51 PM	#12
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	brake mirco switch the brake mirco switch on the handle brake lever... has to be pressed for the brake light to come on... this allows power to the starting system... the power to the solenoic then the ground is activated when you press the start button... you can just jump these wires on the switch to by pass it... you need power at the solenoid wire and then ground to engage it.... this is the 2 wires at the solenoid... this is the MAJOR PROBLEM in this case,.,,, nothing else... if you can jump the solenoid to make it start... then there is no power from the key to the start stop switch system... or the mirco switch is not working properly.... check the wires to see if they asre making the connection.... all you need is a test light.... check for a ground power ... or a positive power... one or the other... __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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07-31-2018, 08:11 PM	#2
ajsmith184 Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7	BTW, fuse is good. Could it be a bad solenoid?
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08-01-2018, 06:57 AM	#3
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,046	If you have 12v when you press the starter switch on the small wires of the solenoid, and can jump the terminals of the big wore, its a bad solenoid. If you dont have power (with the starter button pressed) on the small wires, something is interry Upting the signal, i.e. remote box, or a safety switch...
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08-01-2018, 08:48 AM	#4
ajsmith184 Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7	Can the remote start have any kind of lockout or something I am not aware of?
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08-01-2018, 09:51 AM	#5
bogieboy Join Date: May 2013 Location: finger lakes NY Posts: 2,046	If it had an alarm/remote start system, yes... they had an ignition cutout on those units.
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08-01-2018, 08:14 PM	#6
ajsmith184 Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7	Thanks for your responses. Is there a wiring diagram or something I can try to figure this out? Or an easy way to bypass it? Like I said no lights or anything but jumping the solenoid works
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08-03-2018, 08:35 AM	#8
ajsmith184 Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7	Got one coming, should be here today. Im here in Michigan too, if this doesnt fix it want to make some side $ David?
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08-03-2018, 02:38 PM	#10
ajsmith184 Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7	New one is on...And nothing. Can still jump across the selenoid to start it. Brake light doesnt come on (which I thought would without power but I may be wrong). No crank hitting the buttom. Replaced ignition switch, start switch and solenoid. Only other thing I can think is the brake switch?
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08-08-2018, 05:06 PM	#13
ajsmith184 Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7	I guess I am confused becasue the brake switch on these is on the brake pedal on the floorboard.
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08-09-2018, 01:24 PM	#14
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	brake switch on the atvs with a foot brake...... there is a brake switch hooked up to the foot brake system... either in the master cylinder ... on the new ones... or to the pedal system.... IF YOU have a hand brake system on the handle bars... there is a mirco switch..... either way you can by pass it by hooking in a jumper .. or hooking up the 2 wires together ( not rocket science stuff ) and try it..... it is there as a SAFETY SYSTEM..... __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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