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Old 02-26-2017, 08:06 AM   #1
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Hawk 250 forks

Way too mushy for my weight of 195 lbs and riding style . Tearing down today and swapping to 10 weight real fork oil . Than exploring shim possiblity . Would like to swap springs , but I have no clue where to start . I will measure length and spring material dia . All I know is 31 mm forks at this point . Any direction advice is appreacated highly . What I did find is list of bikes that had 31mm forks I will share here in a few seconds .
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Old 02-26-2017, 08:30 AM   #2
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I just changed mine to mobile 1 atf. I put 210cc and made a big difference. I weigh about 185
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Old 02-26-2017, 09:09 AM   #3
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Way too mushy for my weight of 195 lbs and riding style . Tearing down today and swapping to 10 weight real fork oil . Than exploring shim possiblity . Would like to swap springs , but I have no clue where to start . I will measure length and spring material dia . All I know is 31 mm forks at this point . Any direction advice is appreacated highly . What I did find is list of bikes that had 31mm forks I will share here in a few seconds .
Iam about to do the same thing. The info will be very helpful.Thanks
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Old 02-26-2017, 11:07 AM   #4
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Way too mushy for my weight of 195 lbs and riding style . Tearing down today and swapping to 10 weight real fork oil . Than exploring shim possiblity . Would like to swap springs , but I have no clue where to start . I will measure length and spring material dia . All I know is 31 mm forks at this point . Any direction advice is appreacated highly . What I did find is list of bikes that had 31mm forks I will share here in a few seconds .
If they're still too spongy after you change the oil, run a couple chunks of 1/2" PVC on tp of each spring, under the fork caps. Start with 1". Adjust more or less from there. Cheap and it works.
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:11 PM   #5
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Way too mushy for my weight of 195 lbs and riding style . Tearing down today and swapping to 10 weight real fork oil . Than exploring shim possiblity . Would like to swap springs , but I have no clue where to start . I will measure length and spring material dia . All I know is 31 mm forks at this point . Any direction advice is appreacated highly . What I did find is list of bikes that had 31mm forks I will share here in a few seconds .
Have you measured to OD of those forks? I think they're 41mm.


 
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:15 PM   #6
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Drained out 6oz's from each fork . Pretty grey color for 63miles , but that's normal here in Wi from what I have seen over the years . Added 6oz's of bel ray 10wt . And added 2 nickels as shims . I have den the PVC pipe shims before and metal in my mind is a better option . Took the hawk around the yard grabbed a little air over ditch and she is much nicer . Before I add anymore I want to measure stroke of travel and calculate spring compression to the best if my ability. I have bent forks in the past from over shimming them . These are the smallest springs I ever seen . Fork tubes are beefy enough , but finding replacement springs is gonna be a challenge . If I need them that is . For some reason I can only load 1pix at a time , bare with me
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Nice round 2 foot length . But tightly wound small dia .
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I measure and check everything , curse of being a machinist for years .
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WTF

2 nickels is .120 shim and seems way better already .
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Nice round 2 foot length . But tightly wound small dia .
Progressive Springs probably have springs for those forks. Progressive usually winds springs with (surprise!) progressive rate springs. Usually softer in the middle and stiffer at the ends.


 
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:30 PM   #11
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Progressive Springs probably have springs for those forks. Progressive usually winds springs with (surprise!) progressive rate springs. Usually softer in the middle and stiffer at the ends.
I normally run race tech in everything . They already told me it s gonna take some R&D first
I will try Progessive next .
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Too much snow here to prove anything out . But after a few sliding hot laps in snow with soft lawn underneath , I believe I made a difference . How much is to be determined later .
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My other China Girl . Ok not really Chinese, but she's Asain . She is our Japanese Akita Inu
BTW she hates the hawk and chases it all over the yard when I am outside .
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I normally run race tech in everything . They already told me it s gonna take some R&D first
I will try Progessive next .
Let us know what you find. Iam sure lots of us could and would use new springs in our forks. For me I if I just touch my front brake my forks dip like crazy and that's if I just touch the brake. Thanks for the info.
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Let us know what you find. Iam sure lots of us could and would use new springs in our forks. For me I if I just touch my front brake my forks dip like crazy and that's if I just touch the brake. Thanks for the info.
I took my little China girl out today after work and 10 wt fork oil and 2 nickels for shims works suprisingly well. I also made a call into Progessive and I got a dudes voice mail . We'll see if he gets back to me . The problem I see is the small dia of the springs . Most 31 mm forks use a larger dia spring .
Back in my younger cobbling days I have bought hardware store springs and stacked them up to get what I wanted . Sounds crazy , but with enough pateints of trail and error it works . Next step is measuring rear shock eye to eye . That should be an easy find for replacement . BTW I never leave anything alone . It's just my nature
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