05-13-2023, 02:11 PM | #16 |
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This is clearly Rotella. Fine stuff. That’s what we all used to break it in. It says right on the label. Rotella.
this must be where Shell gets it from
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05-13-2023, 07:22 PM | #17 |
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Well, I changed it today. This is what I found in the screen.
The oil did not appear to have a metallic sheen or smell of gasoline. It wasn't pretty, but I've seen worse in my beaters. They were out of Rotella so I threw in some 20 w 50 synthetic Castrol motorcycle oil. I am going to swap it out again at the beginning of next month, no matter what the miles say.
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05-13-2023, 07:32 PM | #18 |
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That is a pretty clean mesh strainer ("filter") for a 1st change! You seem to have good finishing on the internals (removing casting and milling leftovers).
I have seen some larger flakes and chunks in there (in other pics). I admit I have never bothered with it. I will on the next change. It seems like the stuff is retained well (!) and isn't causing a flow issue
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That looks great. I started running the 20 W 50 “V-Twin” Mobil stuff at either 500 or 1000 miles. I forget. Rotella went out of stock everywhere after the pandemic. So I was never able to get it again after the first batch I got. I tried the 20w50 and it was great too. But a lot more expensive. At 6000 or 7000 miles now, I’ve used the 20w50 this whole time
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05-13-2023, 07:52 PM | #20 |
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The Walmart Super Tech V Twin 20-50 full synthetic is pretty inexpensive, I have used it, but it's almost crystal clear, and can be hard to see on a dipstick. Super tech makes other weights of motorcycle oil as well. I've seen several "Project Farm" oil comparison videos, and Super Tech oils are good oils from what I've seen. Sometimes Walmart has motorcycle oils in the sports section, due to the popularity of off road ATVs, and such.
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05-13-2023, 07:55 PM | #21 |
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I rode the bike for about 6 miles and drained it immediately, so I reckon all the crap was suspended in the oil and not settled on horizontal surfaces inside the engine. I was going to check the plug, but it slipped my mind. I hate to find out I am dangerously lean because this thing is freakin' sipping gas with the unmodified stock carb. I went 160 units on slightly over 1 gallon of gas..that is insane. It doesn't bog; it idles great. I mean... the only reason I can imagine changing anything is if it is dangerously lean. The engine does not seem to be running hot, and the exhaust pipe is not turning red. Tomorrow, I will pull the plug.
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05-13-2023, 08:11 PM | #22 |
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I think you said you bought a bike that was returned, by a previous buyer, and sold again by the dealership as remanufactured? Does it by chance have the carb bowl screws slotted? Maybe it's already been rejected by the previous buyer. Also check and see if it by chance has only 3 screws holding the bowl. It may have a VM26 clone on it.
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05-13-2023, 08:49 PM | #23 |
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I looked but saw no marks on the "plugs" or whatever are where there should be screws. I will examine tomorrow. I am super curious now. I really do mostly ride up in the hills though, even when I go to my daughters south of here, I run the ridges to get there. Maybe that's it.
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These Chinese enduro bikes definitely offer a lot of enjoyment for the money. I've had 3, and still have 2. I bought my Brozz new , a couple years ago for $1,950 with free shipping. I spent very little on it, just Niche XRing chain , front, and rear sprockets, and proper jets for the stock carb, and very cheap bags. I completely de restricted the story exhaust. I put just over 2,000 on the odometer on it, then it was stolen out of the garage on my property (farm) out in the country. I had a couple of street bikes, but I just didn't enjoy them as much as the Brozz. I jumped at the chance to buy a nearly new TBR7D with just 400 showing on the odometer for $1,300 .It already had 42/17 sprockets, and was rejetted it ran great. The guy just got in a financial jam. It already had a real title. I also got the old sprockets with it, and I put the Stock 46 on it , and run it with the 17. I replaced the rear sprocket studs with Honda studs, and replaced the chain. I did splurge on full exhaust, Nibbi PE28FL, and pod filter. I have cheap bags, and homemade fork brace, as well as additional preload spacers. I have had everything I need to port the head, and a 4 degree timing key, but never did any of that yet. I am now showing just over 3,000 on the odometer, but I know it reads kilometers, so I have over 1,800 miles on it. Any my Hawk was probably the best deal of all . It's a 2016, but had almost no miles, and it runs great . I have spent almost nothing on it. I replaced the chain, and sprocket studs,and installed the stock 46 /17 sprockets from my old Brozz on it. I de catted it. Properly jetted it for the exhaust work, Nibbi Filter, and cheap bags, I also found a great deal on a Zanella digital speedometer cluster on eBay, and bought an adjustable shock, and made new preload spacers for the forks, and a fork brace. I has probably close to 1,000 miles on the bike now. I have already put more miles on, and spent less on the 3 bikes together, than a lot of people do on bikes that they have payed far more for, and more on upgrades.
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05-14-2023, 09:24 AM | #27 |
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I am going to go out shortly and pull that plug, I will take pictures. I hope I don't get bad news.
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05-14-2023, 10:47 AM | #28 |
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iridium plug after 500 miles
Here is what the plug looks like this morning. What do you think? Too lean ???
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05-14-2023, 07:44 PM | #29 |
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Is it safe to run?
Is it safe to run that way for another two weeks or so until I get a solution? Also, this may sound stupid, but couldnt I put choke at mid position to enrichen it? I actually put several miles on it that way (choke at half) before even realizing it.
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