New Zongshen RX3 (ZS250GY-3) Dual Sport

[culcune]

Originally Posted by oldqwerty

One forum is enough. Keep it simple. Way too much road kill on the information superhighway as it is. Just my worthless opinion.

LOL on the quote! It is too late as someone created a whole forum site dedicated to the RX-3; what I meant is to simply move this thread to its own subcategory to be able to find it quickly and easily. Not that it isn't usually the top of the 'Dual Sport/Enduro' section, but sometimes several other posts push it down.

I am fairly certain I will be buying one of these, but in a few months, and by then, I would hate to have to possibly search for this thread. I am quite certain that Spud will be taking his bike apart and putting it back together keeping this thread relevant enough, but Spud could take a long road trip on his RX3 and not post anything for a while! It could happen...

A good example--his Zongshen GY2 thread is not that easy to find...

[Belamoto]

Originally Posted by Veteran

... I predict an Arai XD in her future too unless someone has a better idea...

At the moment I'm happy with my Acerbis Active but if I were buying I'd take a serious look at the NEXX XD1.

[pete]

any helmet with a peak at 100kmph / 60mph
is a pain wheather it has vents or not to let
the air though.... My AGV road helmet is my first
choice for long road work...

[Belamoto]

Originally Posted by pete

any helmet with a peak at 100kmph / 60mph
is a pain wheather it has vents or not to let
the air though.... My AGV road helmet is my first
choice for long road work...

Depends how much wind protection the RX3 screen provides. On my GSA the screen is big enough that my peak is no problem at motorway speeds. If anything, I'll be going a tad slower on the RX3

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by SpudRider

I got your PM, and send you a reply.

Thanks Spud. I searched high and low for a definative answer on that one.

[Huck369]

Originally Posted by Belamoto

Depends how much wind protection the RX3 screen provides. On my GSA the screen is big enough that my peak is no problem at motorway speeds. If anything, I'll be going a tad slower on the RX3

I have several helmets, and I prefer one with a visor on an "Adventure" bike, or an off-road bike, as speeds are usually slower, and I generally have a windshield on mine that helps with windblast....when I'll be riding in and out of trees/shaded areas, I prefer to not wear sunglasses, and the visor really helps under those conditions.....really just depends on what kind of riding I'm headed out to do, on which helmet I pick up.

[G19Tony]

I was hoping it would be done early this week, so I could do a fly and ride, but, it was not to be. I'll make a run early Friday morning in the truck, scoop it up and head back to Vegas.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by G19Tony

I was hoping it would be done early this week, so I could do a fly and ride, but, it was not to be. I'll make a run early Friday morning in the truck, scoop it up and head back to Vegas.

Good for you, Tony.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by Veteran

Thanks Spud. I searched high and low for a definative answer on that one.

You're welcome.

[G19Tony]

I just ordered these for the RX-3.

http://www.highwaydirtbikes.com/HDB_...&ref=NexGen_00

The original style would be better, but finding a top clamp match, I'm guessing would be pretty hard. The universal fit will work fine.

[SpudRider]

Please do post a review of these handgards after you receive them.

[oldqwerty]

Veteran, thanks for your service.

I appreciate your thoughtfulness towards your wife's surviving a drop. I love an MX style helmet and goggles for running logging and forest and ranch roads and such, and even for 2-lane black top because goggles keep the dirt out of my eyes. I sometimes modify the visor attachment hardware to 1/4 turns such as Dzus for extended highway legs. It only takes a couple seconds to deal with such fasteners. I cut a pattern from a shoe box to use to cut static window tint to slap inside the goggles for running without a visor on sunny days. Well worth the effort.

The best helmet is the one that fits, regardless of cost. Tight spots transfer energy without dissipating or distributing, increasing the likelihood of injury. Loose spots allow shift before slamming in to the head, increasing the likelihood of injury. Helmet fit should match head shape as well as size. Ask any EMT that's scraped up a few carcasses with ill fitting helmets.

I look for DOT, but avoid SNELL like the plague because to need the level of protection a SNELL helmet provides would pretty much equal two RX3s running WFO having a head-on. Generally, a not-SNELL DOT will be destroyed and run out of protection about when a SNELL starts to fail and starts to protect. I've seen lots of scratched up SNELL helmets not crushed on unconscious riders, and lots of not-SNELL helmets destroyed, yet the riders were able to jump up and pick up their own bikes.

Structural failure provides the third means engineered into a helmet to prevent energy from reaching the head--absorbing energy through crushing the helmet's structure. A structure that doesn't fail transmits energy directly to the head. Not good.

Please encourage your wife to seek a softer, non-SNELL helmet, especially if she is a slow-down-and-smell-the-road-kill rider. She will be much better protected by a cheaper, softer helmet doing the type of riding you described than by a high dollar competition rated SNELL model. Besides, for the same money she can have a variety of helmets in different colors and styles to fit her moods.

[oldqwerty]

Any word on when the shipping will start?

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by oldqwerty

Veteran, thanks for your service.

I appreciate your thoughtfulness towards your wife's surviving a drop. I love an MX style helmet and goggles for running logging and forest and ranch roads and such, and even for 2-lane black top because goggles keep the dirt out of my eyes. I sometimes modify the visor attachment hardware to 1/4 turns such as Dzus for extended highway legs. It only takes a couple seconds to deal with such fasteners. I cut a pattern from a shoe box to use to cut static window tint to slap inside the goggles for running without a visor on sunny days. Well worth the effort.

The best helmet is the one that fits, regardless of cost. Tight spots transfer energy without dissipating or distributing, increasing the likelihood of injury. Loose spots allow shift before slamming in to the head, increasing the likelihood of injury. Helmet fit should match head shape as well as size. Ask any EMT that's scraped up a few carcasses with ill fitting helmets.

I look for DOT, but avoid SNELL like the plague because to need the level of protection a SNELL helmet provides would pretty much equal two RX3s running WFO having a head-on. Generally, a not-SNELL DOT will be destroyed and run out of protection about when a SNELL starts to fail and starts to protect. I've seen lots of scratched up SNELL helmets not crushed on unconscious riders, and lots of not-SNELL helmets destroyed, yet the riders were able to jump up and pick up their own bikes.

Structural failure provides the third means engineered into a helmet to prevent energy from reaching the head--absorbing energy through crushing the helmet's structure. A structure that doesn't fail transmits energy directly to the head. Not good.

Please encourage your wife to seek a softer, non-SNELL helmet, especially if she is a slow-down-and-smell-the-road-kill rider. She will be much better protected by a cheaper, softer helmet doing the type of riding you described than by a high dollar competition rated SNELL model. Besides, for the same money she can have a variety of helmets in different colors and styles to fit her moods.

Good stuff, Thanks. My personal go-to helmet, (although I own several that are bigger name brand), is a Fly trekker in H-Viz yellow. Good fit and if they don't see me; they probably don't have good enough vision to drive in the first place. I've never had problems with it up to and exceeding the speed limit. It's a little louder than I like on the highway, but I listen to an MP3 playing softly, so it's not THAT loud.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by oldqwerty

... The best helmet is the one that fits, regardless of cost. Tight spots transfer energy without dissipating or distributing, increasing the likelihood of injury. Loose spots allow shift before slamming in to the head, increasing the likelihood of injury. Helmet fit should match head shape as well as size. Ask any EMT that's scraped up a few carcasses with ill fitting helmets.

I look for DOT, but avoid SNELL like the plague because to need the level of protection a SNELL helmet provides would pretty much equal two RX3s running WFO having a head-on. Generally, a not-SNELL DOT will be destroyed and run out of protection about when a SNELL starts to fail and starts to protect. I've seen lots of scratched up SNELL helmets not crushed on unconscious riders, and lots of not-SNELL helmets destroyed, yet the riders were able to jump up and pick up their own bikes.

Structural failure provides the third means engineered into a helmet to prevent energy from reaching the head--absorbing energy through crushing the helmet's structure. A structure that doesn't fail transmits energy directly to the head. Not good.

Please encourage your wife to seek a softer, non-SNELL helmet, especially if she is a slow-down-and-smell-the-road-kill rider. She will be much better protected by a cheaper, softer helmet doing the type of riding you described than by a high dollar competition rated SNELL model. Besides, for the same money she can have a variety of helmets in different colors and styles to fit her moods.

I couldn't agree more with you regarding helmet fit, selection, and DOT certification. Indeed, Snell helmets are not as safe as DOT helmets. I only purchase helmets with DOT certification.