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Old 09-14-2022, 03:41 PM   #1
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No it's a replacement 42T rear on the Brozz
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Old 09-15-2022, 08:43 AM   #2
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Nice write up, tknj99. I am running a 14-40 ratio and that is working really well for me. It runs just under 1000 rpm per 10 mph in 6th. Still works very well off road.
I tried a 130 main jet and that is too rich, runs better with a 125 main. Went on a long ride and hit reserve at about 100 miles and totally ran out 5 miles later. Lucky a local Dairy Farmer had a gas can and gave me a ride. Need to figure out how to carry more. I guess the reserve isn't very much.
Looking forward to finding some more power even though is goes very well. Really like the bike!


 
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Old 10-29-2022, 10:22 AM   #3
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Orange is a great color for this bike. Those bark busters really look great on it. What a F-ing awesome bike we have. Incredible deal.

and we have ended up with a range of gearing:

If tknj99 has OEM 13T front, he is 13/42 now on the 6 speed
I have 14/49 on my 5 speed now (swapped wheels from the 6speed)
My 6 speed has the OEM front sprocket but the 39T rear 13/39
dslfrk comes in with a 14/40 on his 6 speed

ratios, sorted from tall gearing to low geared
6 speed
14/40 = 0.3500 (dslfrk)
13/39 = 0.3333 (thumper)
13/42 = 0.3095 (tknj99)
5 speed
14/49 = 0.2857 (thumper)

13/49 = 0.2653 (OEM)

I can see why 6th gear seems like an overdrive with 14/40 (dslfrk). You could go back to 13T front if it seems too tall. 13/40 = 0.325 which is about the same as my 13/39. (0.333).

I am going to put the rack on the 6 speed when PSM gets them in. It can be removed pretty quick for trail duty. Once I have it, I will decide on bags/luggage, or fabricate something. I can use it as adventure tour and carryall for shopping/errands. My orange 5 speed will remain the dedicated dirt bike. I already put a narrow TUSK DSport on the back wheel. It bites and holds like a shark. That will be the one that gets modified.
I just love the simplicity of that 5 speed engine.
I was looking closely at the Templar M. It seems very similar to my 5 speed Temp X, but with the newer version of the luggage rack. If I was starting all over, I would buy that bike ($1600 is more than $200 less than I paid for my 5 speeed TempX). The M is my top choice for off road now. Hands down... No need for 6 speed off road.



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Old 09-15-2022, 10:04 AM   #4
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I'm guessing perhaps you may have been running with the petcock in the reserve position and really drained all of the gas and were lucky to get a couple ounces left for the remaining 5 miles. With that being said im wondering what the correct position is for reserve. Generally with the arrow side pointing down, that's reserve (handle side pointing up) but on my Titan it was the opposite. I'm running the Templar X with arrow pointing up assuming thats normal position. What position do you keep it in under normal riding?
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Old 09-15-2022, 10:13 AM   #5
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Update: changed the oil today at 100 miles and 0 metallic shards in the filter screen, yay!
Here's a pic of the plug, i think it looks ok.. the bike runs great at all throttle positions, im at 600ft elevation. the only thing i notice is popping on deceleration.
I also started to hear a buzzing sound at certain rpm's but don't find anything loose, thats quite annoying, hopefully will figure it out.
Also, PSM mailed me replacement mirrors but ugh! they are wrong ones and look like something you find on a scooter! I emailed them to that effect and they are pushing back that the stock mirrors are out of stock and these round ones will work with my response being imagine having a Toyota that you needed replacement side mirrors and the dealer sent you something off a Chevy, cmon guys! I'm hoping they make it right,
will update accordingly
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Old 09-15-2022, 03:23 PM   #6
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I guess I run the fuel petcock like you do. I just went out to the shop and studied out the fuel system and it looks like maybe reserve may just draw from the right side of the tank. A normal reserve draws from the last couple of inches of the gas tank but the Templar system is different. My RXB only goes a few miles before running out on reserve so I guess it didn't surprise me when the Templar did. I know I was some kinda shaking it as it started to run out and it would go a little farther 'till it didn't any more. I was looking at those 5 liter spare gas cans that lay flat or vertical on the rack. Has anyone used those and do they work good? Your spark plug looks good, gotta check mine after I rejetted.


 
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Old 09-15-2022, 04:01 PM   #7
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Found the buzzing culprit.. was the exhaust heat shield.. (despite being tight).. removed it and will keep as is for now. Plan to uncork the cat at some point as well and would probably replace the shield afterwards to cover any unsightly weld marks
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:59 AM   #8
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Update: PSM will be refunding me $15 for the mirrors which should cover the cost of a similar replacement set i found on Amazon.. good on them to again make it right after a few email exchanges
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Old 09-18-2022, 05:24 PM   #9
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:18 AM   #10
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how much drag do you see? i assumed they were getting some serious drag.
if you see just a little, then dont worry.... time will take care of it.... new pad will wear off, i think
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Old 09-27-2022, 07:37 AM   #11
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So I've noticed a vibration between 40 and 60mph which feels like a wheel issue. I've trued both wheels as best as I can and don't see any high spots and pressure at 25psi. It's just an annoyance when I'm on pavement. The vendor claims it's normal and that lowering air pressure will fix but I know it's not. Could the wheels need balancing? Has anyone else noticed the same?
I also ensured that front rebound wasn't soft so it's not pogo effect causing it. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
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Old 09-29-2022, 12:15 AM   #12
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So I've noticed a vibration between 40 and 60mph which feels like a wheel issue. I've trued both wheels as best as I can and don't see any high spots and pressure at 25psi. It's just an annoyance when I'm on pavement. The vendor claims it's normal and that lowering air pressure will fix but I know it's not. Could the wheels need balancing? Has anyone else noticed the same?
I also ensured that front rebound wasn't soft so it's not pogo effect causing it. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
I have now ran up to 70mph as indicated on speedo both on gravel and paved with no noticeable/unusual vibe's. I am however running 20 psi and have swapped to a 40t rear with the suspension set pretty soft. But even before those changes I didn't experience any noticeable or unusual vibe's 40-60 mph.
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Old 10-03-2022, 03:21 PM   #13
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Today i adjusted the valves to be in spec as discussed on the forum @.002. To do that, i tightened down on a .003 feeler and forcefully pulled out the feeler. That is the best method i've found to get at the correct spec. Started her up and she fired up immediately and seems quieter as well. Unfortunately, the reving sputter and die issue when cold still occurs, i'm planning on working on the carb next to address that
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Old 10-07-2022, 06:51 PM   #14
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Update: had to order a replacement carb since i botched the removal of the tamper proof red-locktited screws (grind the heads off next time lol)..
Today i received the replacement Amazon carb and this is an exact duplicate of the stock carb with the benefits including: no tamper screws, exposed a/f screw, big idle turn knob, adjustable needle (as well as now having spare carb parts). The only thing extra i needed to do was pop on a vacuum cap on an exposed inlet. Installed with 42 pilot, 125 main, needle at middle position and a/f 3 turns out and its running like a champion

Note about the carb in the link: it says PE30 but its actually a 28mm carb as required

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Old 10-23-2022, 09:13 PM   #15
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Update: just passed the 500mi mark and done with break-in.. can now wind- her out fully (yay). also changed the oil..
with regard to the wheels feeling out-of-balance between 40-60mph, i've found that keeping the tire pressure above 30psi helps alot on the pavement, perhaps thats a sign that a balancing is needed - luckily a friend has a motorcycle wheel balancer with weights for next time i head that way
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