Got a 2 smoker

Savage · 12-22-2008, 11:17 AM

Picked up a 2 smoker for cheap - 98 CR125. Too cold to really ride it but it seems to run fine. I'll either keep it around for a bud bike, sell it when it gets nice out, or I've thought about pulling the engine and pipe and putting in a mild 4 stroke. Anyone here have a clue if a chinese 200 could be wedged in there? I realize this is a vague question but I thought I'd see if anyone here has done anything like this?
It would make for a heck of a bike for a beginner!

IronFist · 12-22-2008, 12:15 PM

I don't know if it'll work, but I've always liked the idea of putting chinese motors into honda frames. Best (cheapest) part of both worlds. :wink:

Cal25 · 12-22-2008, 01:26 PM

Its been many many years since my 2stroke bikes, but the little 100's and 125's would run circles around my 250 HiBird.

TeamCheap · 12-22-2008, 02:45 PM

I'd run it as it is.

The 2 stroke engines are a bit smaller than a 4 stroker and would make it difficult to swap in a 4 stroker.

I have thought about a ninja 250 engine in a xl250r frame though I'd like to put it in a china bike frame but I think it would tear it up.

Savage · 12-22-2008, 05:10 PM

Ya the 125 2t will blow away any 200-300 4t, but I just thought about it for a nice, plush, easy riding bike for a bud or my wife.

elroyjetsn · 12-22-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage

Ya the 125 2t will blow away any 200-300 4t...

Between 5 and 6 k. Outside that the 4's take over pretty much. :roll:

Savage · 12-22-2008, 07:45 PM

I had a lifan 200, I now have a KLX 300 and DRZ 450. I haven't even got my 125 out of 2nd but I know the 200 or 300 wouldn't keep up with it in a drag!!
Now if you're talking about riding one all day on gravel roads, then I'd take the 300 over the 125. :roll:

winwun · 12-23-2008, 06:42 AM

If you do make the swap, I might be interested in the 2-stroke you take out . . .

IronFist · 12-23-2008, 11:39 AM

Luke, 11: 21
Rush, 21: 12

My bike is named Barchetta, from a Rush song. No Hubris Intended.:wink:

Qingdao · 12-27-2008, 05:30 PM

Keep the 2 Stroke LOTS more power than you'd ever see from a Chinese 200, 300 what ever.

winwun · 12-27-2008, 05:57 PM

Yup, a 2-stroke with the same displacement has twice the power of a four stroke, in fact a lot of the meets will classify them as equal, i.e., a 250 two-stroke against a 500 four-stroke.

I had a 250 Polaris that wouldn't take a backseat to anything, and it was light and nimble -- could take it places a mountain goat wouldn't tiptoe . . .

Savage · 12-27-2008, 06:26 PM

True. I know about the difference in power and such. Took me awhile to be convinced of a 4 stroke MX bike. Only reason I would want to switch out motors is to have a nice, light bike that could tractor thru the trails instead of fly.

Savage · 01-13-2009, 10:49 PM

Finally got the CR out for a ride this weekend. I was having so much fun on the light bike I let the other guy ride my DRZ most of the time. The 2 stroke hit is a blast.

John22j · 02-08-2009, 09:26 PM

the idea of taking out a good running 2 stroke motor just blows my mind... 2 strokes are easy to work on, cheap to maintain, and a blast to ride.

Long live the 2 strokes!!!! nothing like the sound or the smell when you get a full line of them ready for the gate to drop. Now they are pretty much gone, and KTM's looking at mass producing zero-emission electric bikes -- won't be long and the kids will be walking around halls going wooosh wooosh instead of brrraaaaapppp braaaappppp. :wink:

Nice looking bike - keep it as it is and enjoy it.

ChiGongJitsu · 02-28-2009, 01:53 AM

nice bike, i've been thinnking of selliln all three of my bikes to get a used two stroke, 125's usually put out upwards of 40 hp stock, not too shabby!

the more i ride, the more i like to wring out the motor anyways, and two strokes are perfect for that

12-22-2008, 11:17 AM	#1
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	Got a 2 smoker Picked up a 2 smoker for cheap - 98 CR125. Too cold to really ride it but it seems to run fine. I'll either keep it around for a bud bike, sell it when it gets nice out, or I've thought about pulling the engine and pipe and putting in a mild 4 stroke. Anyone here have a clue if a chinese 200 could be wedged in there? I realize this is a vague question but I thought I'd see if anyone here has done anything like this? It would make for a heck of a bike for a beginner!
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12-22-2008, 12:15 PM	#2
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	I don't know if it'll work, but I've always liked the idea of putting chinese motors into honda frames. Best (cheapest) part of both worlds. :wink: __________________ IronFist ___________________________________ The "chain" of command is used for beating spammers. ___________________________________
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12-23-2008, 06:42 AM	#8
winwun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 169	If you do make the swap, I might be interested in the 2-stroke you take out . . . __________________ If everyone picked up a couple of pieces of litter, pretty soon there wouldn't be ANY, and wouldn't THAT be nice ? Luke, 11: 21
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12-23-2008, 11:39 AM	#9
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	Luke, 11: 21 Rush, 21: 12 My bike is named Barchetta, from a Rush song. No Hubris Intended.:wink: __________________ IronFist ___________________________________ The "chain" of command is used for beating spammers. ___________________________________
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12-27-2008, 05:30 PM	#10
Qingdao Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 351	Keep the 2 Stroke LOTS more power than you'd ever see from a Chinese 200, 300 what ever. __________________ <div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2ilH...s</a></div><br />
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12-22-2008, 01:26 PM	#3
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	Its been many many years since my 2stroke bikes, but the little 100's and 125's would run circles around my 250 HiBird.
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12-22-2008, 02:45 PM	#4
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	I'd run it as it is. The 2 stroke engines are a bit smaller than a 4 stroker and would make it difficult to swap in a 4 stroker. I have thought about a ninja 250 engine in a xl250r frame though I'd like to put it in a china bike frame but I think it would tear it up.
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12-22-2008, 05:10 PM	#5
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	Ya the 125 2t will blow away any 200-300 4t, but I just thought about it for a nice, plush, easy riding bike for a bud or my wife.
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12-22-2008, 07:45 PM	#7
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	I had a lifan 200, I now have a KLX 300 and DRZ 450. I haven't even got my 125 out of 2nd but I know the 200 or 300 wouldn't keep up with it in a drag!! Now if you're talking about riding one all day on gravel roads, then I'd take the 300 over the 125. :roll:
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12-27-2008, 05:57 PM	#11
winwun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 169	Yup, a 2-stroke with the same displacement has twice the power of a four stroke, in fact a lot of the meets will classify them as equal, i.e., a 250 two-stroke against a 500 four-stroke. I had a 250 Polaris that wouldn't take a backseat to anything, and it was light and nimble -- could take it places a mountain goat wouldn't tiptoe . . . __________________ If everyone picked up a couple of pieces of litter, pretty soon there wouldn't be ANY, and wouldn't THAT be nice ? Luke, 11: 21
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12-27-2008, 06:26 PM	#12
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	True. I know about the difference in power and such. Took me awhile to be convinced of a 4 stroke MX bike. Only reason I would want to switch out motors is to have a nice, light bike that could tractor thru the trails instead of fly.
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01-13-2009, 10:49 PM	#13
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	Finally got the CR out for a ride this weekend. I was having so much fun on the light bike I let the other guy ride my DRZ most of the time. The 2 stroke hit is a blast.
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02-08-2009, 09:26 PM	#14
John22j Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 289	the idea of taking out a good running 2 stroke motor just blows my mind... 2 strokes are easy to work on, cheap to maintain, and a blast to ride. Long live the 2 strokes!!!! nothing like the sound or the smell when you get a full line of them ready for the gate to drop. Now they are pretty much gone, and KTM's looking at mass producing zero-emission electric bikes -- won't be long and the kids will be walking around halls going wooosh wooosh instead of brrraaaaapppp braaaappppp. :wink: Nice looking bike - keep it as it is and enjoy it. __________________ '20 RPS Magician 250 '06 Hensim (Tierra) DB150-2 '06 X-Treme 70cc pitbike '02 Kawasaki KX125
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02-28-2009, 01:53 AM	#15
ChiGongJitsu Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 315	nice bike, i've been thinnking of selliln all three of my bikes to get a used two stroke, 125's usually put out upwards of 40 hp stock, not too shabby! the more i ride, the more i like to wring out the motor anyways, and two strokes are perfect for that
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