Alright Its Decision time! Why do I make this so Hard.

letsride · 07-07-2022, 12:19 PM

Alright Fellers,
Ducks are all lined up ready to buy my next Dual Sport! While Jerry's KPX is a VERY nice, in fact probably the best Chinese dual sport I've seen. It doesn't really need any tinkering. Why would I want a bike I have to work on? Isn't that half the fun? Besides I have a brand new Exhaust in my shed still in the box that I never put on my last Brozz. I also have various other crap like jets, rebuild kits, etc. So, WHAT to do is the question?

The Brozz Recon from Peace Sports is everything I wish my previous Brozz was. Then there is the Storm, Razzer, Hawk, TBR7, etc. SMH!

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 01:11 PM

The Brozz Recon would be my choice because it does have the USD forks, counter balanced engine and heavy duty swing arm. I know what you mean about tinkering. The KPX kind of took the fun stuff out of getting a new China bike.

But out the box, The KPX is probably one of the most complete and ready to go. Put gas, oil and go. The 20hp 250cc engine with 6 speed transmission and EFI is a game changer for sure.

I'm very happy with it even though I have to be a little bored.

letsride · 07-07-2022, 01:28 PM

Yeah,
I'm really having to talk myself out of the KPX, but keep going back to it. LOL. I like the idea of a Carb, but damn is F.I. nice. I'm gonna give it a day and ponder the conundrum I've gotten myself into.

tknj99 · 07-07-2022, 01:33 PM

Xpro Titan DLX, feels faster than a modified Brozz (see sig), more capable off-road and cheaper but love the Brozz as well, more comfortable of a ride and rock-solid

letsride · 07-07-2022, 01:42 PM

Just got an email back from Don @ APMC

"The 2022 Bashan Razzer DB-49 250 Enduro does not have the countered balanced engine, nor does it have inverted shocks or alarm/remote start. It is more of a basic model and the newest model but not like the storm/brozz."

But Still, for 1500 buck and given the price of China Bikes nowdays, it would be a good entry level, bike that you could work with.

TominMO · 07-07-2022, 01:43 PM

First-world problems are the best problems.....

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letsride

Yeah,
I'm really having to talk myself out of the KPX, but keep going back to it. LOL. I like the idea of a Carb, but damn is F.I. nice. I'm gonna give it a day and ponder the conundrum I've gotten myself into.

And those beautiful aluminum rims on the KPX.

Confused yet?

letsride · 07-07-2022, 02:18 PM

Just a little. I've Narrowed it down. Its either the Brozz Recon or the KPX.

herbie · 07-07-2022, 02:25 PM

For roughly $800 more the KPX has a lot to offer. The overhead cam engine with efi would sell it for me. I was disappointed to see that the new Brozz didn’t come with an overhead cam, I like the Brozz too I think it’s a good machine but the KPX is just quite a bit better I think. It’s easy to spend someone else’s money

Hunnicutt · 07-07-2022, 03:17 PM

I want to spend letsride's money and buy a KPX!

...dang....I can't....bummer.....

I recommend letsride buy a KPX!!

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunnicutt

I want to spend letsride's money and buy a KPX!

...dang....I can't....bummer.....

I recommend letsride buy a KPX!!

That's what I recommended but no, he ain't listening.

Megadan · 07-07-2022, 03:29 PM

I am sure one can find things to tinker with on the KPX. There is something to be said about a bike you can just ride though.

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megadan

I am sure one can find things to tinker with on the KPX. There is something to be said about a bike you can just ride though.

I liked the simple fact that I didn't have to do a single mod to do a quick ride on the interstate from exit to exit and ran 70+ mph comfortably. It took a good bit of mods on the Hawk to do that and wasn't comfortable at all.

Hunnicutt · 07-07-2022, 03:41 PM

I'm sure there are a few things in the Tusk product line that would work well on that bike!!! D-Flex Pro Hand Guards get my vote!

I installed them on all three of our TT250's.

An Airhawk Dual Sport Seat Cushion would also be a nice comfort addition. Add a Ram phone mount, Battery Tender, a Battery Tender Female Cigarette Adapter Accessory Cable, and hit the road!!

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunnicutt

I'm sure there are a few things in the Tusk product line that would work well on that bike!!! D-Flex Pro Hand Guards get my vote!

Just so happens I've been looking at some lime green to match.

07-07-2022, 12:19 PM	#1
letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 835	Alright Its Decision time! Why do I make this so Hard. Alright Fellers, Ducks are all lined up ready to buy my next Dual Sport! While Jerry's KPX is a VERY nice, in fact probably the best Chinese dual sport I've seen. It doesn't really need any tinkering. Why would I want a bike I have to work on? Isn't that half the fun? Besides I have a brand new Exhaust in my shed still in the box that I never put on my last Brozz. I also have various other crap like jets, rebuild kits, etc. So, WHAT to do is the question? The Brozz Recon from Peace Sports is everything I wish my previous Brozz was. Then there is the Storm, Razzer, Hawk, TBR7, etc. SMH! __________________ My Stable- 2022 Lifan KPX250 , 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1992 Honda GL1500 Goldwing, SSR 70 Auto, Kymco Mongoose 90, Honda Four Trax 300
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07-07-2022, 01:11 PM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,578	The Brozz Recon would be my choice because it does have the USD forks, counter balanced engine and heavy duty swing arm. I know what you mean about tinkering. The KPX kind of took the fun stuff out of getting a new China bike. But out the box, The KPX is probably one of the most complete and ready to go. Put gas, oil and go. The 20hp 250cc engine with 6 speed transmission and EFI is a game changer for sure. I'm very happy with it even though I have to be a little bored. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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07-07-2022, 01:28 PM	#3
letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 835	Yeah, I'm really having to talk myself out of the KPX, but keep going back to it. LOL. I like the idea of a Carb, but damn is F.I. nice. I'm gonna give it a day and ponder the conundrum I've gotten myself into. __________________ My Stable- 2022 Lifan KPX250 , 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1992 Honda GL1500 Goldwing, SSR 70 Auto, Kymco Mongoose 90, Honda Four Trax 300
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07-07-2022, 01:33 PM	#4
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,259	Xpro Titan DLX, feels faster than a modified Brozz (see sig), more capable off-road and cheaper but love the Brozz as well, more comfortable of a ride and rock-solid __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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07-07-2022, 01:42 PM	#5
letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 835	Just got an email back from Don @ APMC "The 2022 Bashan Razzer DB-49 250 Enduro does not have the countered balanced engine, nor does it have inverted shocks or alarm/remote start. It is more of a basic model and the newest model but not like the storm/brozz." But Still, for 1500 buck and given the price of China Bikes nowdays, it would be a good entry level, bike that you could work with. __________________ My Stable- 2022 Lifan KPX250 , 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1992 Honda GL1500 Goldwing, SSR 70 Auto, Kymco Mongoose 90, Honda Four Trax 300
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07-07-2022, 01:43 PM	#6
TominMO Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: De Soto, MO Posts: 1,883	First-world problems are the best problems..... __________________ 2021 Lifan Xpect--sold 2022 Lifan KPX 1972 Honda CT90--The Carrot 1969 Honda CT90--The Tomahto Cheesy is the WDK (workplace drama king). Now retired. Nope, back in the saddle. Climate: The Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A24fWmNA6lM How our government really works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjadCd0VRBw Question all authority.....think for yourself
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07-07-2022, 02:18 PM	#8
letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 835	Just a little. I've Narrowed it down. Its either the Brozz Recon or the KPX. __________________ My Stable- 2022 Lifan KPX250 , 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1992 Honda GL1500 Goldwing, SSR 70 Auto, Kymco Mongoose 90, Honda Four Trax 300
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07-07-2022, 02:25 PM	#9
herbie Join Date: May 2019 Location: Illinois Posts: 864	For roughly $800 more the KPX has a lot to offer. The overhead cam engine with efi would sell it for me. I was disappointed to see that the new Brozz didn’t come with an overhead cam, I like the Brozz too I think it’s a good machine but the KPX is just quite a bit better I think. It’s easy to spend someone else’s money __________________ 2022 Venom KPR 200 Red- the fastest color 16t and 46t sprockets, NGK Iridium CPR8EAIX-9, aftermarket full exhaust system. Top speed 81GPS 2023 Venom SS3 KP mini 150– Nibbi carb, Nibbi air filter, aftermarket muffler, decat 2022 Venom Ghost chopper 250 1997 Honda GL1500 Goldwing 1978 Kawasaki KL250 https://youtube.com/@herbiesgarage681
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07-07-2022, 03:17 PM	#10
Hunnicutt Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Central Florida Posts: 103	I want to spend letsride's money and buy a KPX! ...dang....I can't....bummer..... I recommend letsride buy a KPX!! __________________ ___________________________________ 2021 CSC TT250 - Silver (Mine) "Buzz" 2021 CSC TT250 - White (Wife's) "Seymour" 2021 CSC TT250 - White (Daughter's) "Gemini"
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07-07-2022, 03:29 PM	#12
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,040	I am sure one can find things to tinker with on the KPX. There is something to be said about a bike you can just ride though. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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07-07-2022, 03:41 PM	#14
Hunnicutt Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Central Florida Posts: 103	I'm sure there are a few things in the Tusk product line that would work well on that bike!!! D-Flex Pro Hand Guards get my vote! I installed them on all three of our TT250's. An Airhawk Dual Sport Seat Cushion would also be a nice comfort addition. Add a Ram phone mount, Battery Tender, a Battery Tender Female Cigarette Adapter Accessory Cable, and hit the road!! __________________ ___________________________________ 2021 CSC TT250 - Silver (Mine) "Buzz" 2021 CSC TT250 - White (Wife's) "Seymour" 2021 CSC TT250 - White (Daughter's) "Gemini"
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