Hawk Tire Issue

kd2dxf · 06-30-2016, 04:25 PM

So on my hawk 250, i have gone through 5 inner tubes on the rear tire. the fist couple tubes the local shop blamed on loose spokes, then the 3rd one was for a screw, the last 2 the spokes were loose again, but the shop blamed the tire spinning on the rim, and bunching the inner tube. I usually run 38-30 PSI
Anyone else have this issue?

jaymalmat · 06-30-2016, 05:12 PM

I thought I was bad with tubes. Lol. Got mine in sept. and on my 3rd tube. 1st one I was messing around power braking and yeah I spun the valve right off. 2nd tube I accidentally spun the valve off again due too low tire pressure and me trying to wheelie and fast start.

kd2dxf · 06-30-2016, 06:24 PM

The shop that I have do my maintenance said it would be about $100 to install a "rim Lock?" this would prevent this tire spinning. Im waiting untill I replace the tires to do that though

Bruce's · 06-30-2016, 07:14 PM

Get a new shop .The rim lock is a few dollars to buy ( $5-$20) ,and requires a hole being drilled through the rim for the lock ,would not add 5 minutes to just doing a tire including taking care of any sharp leftovers from the drill job .I guess there are other types of rim locks nowadays ,but you bought a basic bike no need for anything other than what has worked for 100 years .

pcspecialist · 06-30-2016, 08:37 PM

for less than $100, you could go Tubliss.

Entropy · 07-01-2016, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist

for less than $100, you could go Tubliss.

Yep, I just put a TuBliss on today. I think I figured out what caused my original tube to shear the valve stem off, I found a puncture in the tire. So it probably punctured the tube which caused low tire pressure allowing the rim to shear it off.

Can't wait to ride it up the tough trails I go on at 2 to 4 psi.

SeerAtlas · 07-01-2016, 07:13 AM

jeez, running at 2-4 and wondering why you have tube problems? guys, even trials riders run more psi than that!

and second the get new dealer/shop advice. that guys a crook, plain and simple UNLESS he's talking pulling both tires/ new tubes/ bead locks and balancing :(

Ariel Red Hunter · 07-01-2016, 11:51 AM

In the bad old days, we drilled four holes on both sides of the rim, and used sheet metal screws just long enough to end up in the bead wire of the tube.

The bead wire is actually a cable.

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Originally Posted by SeerAtlas

jeez, running at 2-4 and wondering why you have tube problems? guys, even trials riders run more psi than that!

and second the get new dealer/shop advice. that guys a crook, plain and simple UNLESS he's talking pulling both tires/ new tubes/ bead locks and balancing :(

kd2dxf · 07-01-2016, 04:00 PM

The shop explained that it would be $110 if i did the rim lock only. But if I did a tire change, they would do it then and be much less.

The TuBliss, is similar to the mousse. but both are for off road. I do 80% on road 20% off road. If there was a flat proof tire for on road use for motorcycles. Similar to these
I would buy them in a heart beat

SeerAtlas · 07-01-2016, 05:29 PM

hey you clay/mud type guys out there, could you imagine running those for longer than 2 or three minutes? LOL, you'd soon not only look like a tank, you'd weigh about the same too!
I wonder what those are for?

Bruce's · 07-01-2016, 06:37 PM

They have them on polaris quads ,I have seen a few sets for sale ,so they must be awesome !you are right ,when they get full of slop ,your bike would weigh a ton ,when I ride my mx bikes in the snow ,it sure feels like they double in weight when the wheels get full of snow .

pcspecialist · 07-01-2016, 06:48 PM

Nothing says you can't TuBliss on road, I know I will when I replace the tires.

Entropy · 07-01-2016, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeerAtlas

jeez, running at 2-4 and wondering why you have tube problems? guys, even trials riders run more psi than that!

and second the get new dealer/shop advice. that guys a crook, plain and simple UNLESS he's talking pulling both tires/ new tubes/ bead locks and balancing :(

I didn't say I'll be running that low of pressure on a stock tube. Look up tubliss.com

kd2dxf · 07-01-2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist

Nothing says you can't TuBliss on road, I know I will when I replace the tires.

When on the TuBliss.Com web site, click on Tubliss under the Products catagory.
You will then see this:

pcspecialist · 07-01-2016, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kd2dxf

When on the TuBliss.Com web site, click on Tubliss under the Products catagory.
You will then see this:

Yes, so? All that means is they don't want to spend the money for DOT certification.

06-30-2016, 04:25 PM	#1
kd2dxf Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central New York Posts: 32	Hawk Tire Issue So on my hawk 250, i have gone through 5 inner tubes on the rear tire. the fist couple tubes the local shop blamed on loose spokes, then the 3rd one was for a screw, the last 2 the spokes were loose again, but the shop blamed the tire spinning on the rim, and bunching the inner tube. I usually run 38-30 PSI Anyone else have this issue?
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07-01-2016, 07:13 AM	#7
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	jeez, running at 2-4 and wondering why you have tube problems? guys, even trials riders run more psi than that! and second the get new dealer/shop advice. that guys a crook, plain and simple UNLESS he's talking pulling both tires/ new tubes/ bead locks and balancing :( __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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07-01-2016, 05:29 PM	#10
SeerAtlas Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 770	hey you clay/mud type guys out there, could you imagine running those for longer than 2 or three minutes? LOL, you'd soon not only look like a tank, you'd weigh about the same too! I wonder what those are for? __________________ Seer's First LAW-"FLY THE PLANE!", fail that, and nothing else matters. 12th Law- Consider what marvels you might do if only you had tomorrow to live over again. Third Law-When someone tells you some thing "Can't Be Done", what they're really saying is They can't do it!!14th Law-Just because something "IS", doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be.. Eighth Law-The only true personal security is anonymity.Ninth Law-Humans tend to learn very little when speaking.10th Law-Some lives ARE worth taking
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06-30-2016, 05:12 PM	#2
jaymalmat Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Garland, Tx Posts: 65	I thought I was bad with tubes. Lol. Got mine in sept. and on my 3rd tube. 1st one I was messing around power braking and yeah I spun the valve right off. 2nd tube I accidentally spun the valve off again due too low tire pressure and me trying to wheelie and fast start.
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06-30-2016, 06:24 PM	#3
kd2dxf Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central New York Posts: 32	The shop that I have do my maintenance said it would be about $100 to install a "rim Lock?" this would prevent this tire spinning. Im waiting untill I replace the tires to do that though
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06-30-2016, 07:14 PM	#4
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	Get a new shop .The rim lock is a few dollars to buy ( $5-$20) ,and requires a hole being drilled through the rim for the lock ,would not add 5 minutes to just doing a tire including taking care of any sharp leftovers from the drill job .I guess there are other types of rim locks nowadays ,but you bought a basic bike no need for anything other than what has worked for 100 years .
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06-30-2016, 08:37 PM	#5
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	for less than $100, you could go Tubliss.
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07-01-2016, 04:00 PM	#9
kd2dxf Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central New York Posts: 32	The shop explained that it would be $110 if i did the rim lock only. But if I did a tire change, they would do it then and be much less. The TuBliss, is similar to the mousse. but both are for off road. I do 80% on road 20% off road. If there was a flat proof tire for on road use for motorcycles. Similar to these I would buy them in a heart beat
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07-01-2016, 06:37 PM	#11
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	They have them on polaris quads ,I have seen a few sets for sale ,so they must be awesome !you are right ,when they get full of slop ,your bike would weigh a ton ,when I ride my mx bikes in the snow ,it sure feels like they double in weight when the wheels get full of snow .
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07-01-2016, 06:48 PM	#12
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	Nothing says you can't TuBliss on road, I know I will when I replace the tires.
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