Go Back   ChinaRiders Forums > Technical/Performance > Dual Sport/Enduro
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-12-2017, 09:10 PM   #1
mcwhorter-enforcer   mcwhorter-enforcer is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 52
2017 Bashan Enforcer

So I am really new to CR forum to start out with.

I actually intended to buy a Honda CRF250L but after talking to my bank I was actually going to need to put down the same amount that the Enforcer cost and have payments for the next 2 years.....screw that.

I was debating the Hawk, the Brozz and the Enforcer but liked the Enforcer best so I ordered it today.Most of all because it seems to be really easy to register and http://www.apscusa.com has great reviews.

There is a huge following for the Hawk and they look almost identical so I have a few questions for the experts.

Here we go:

1.How interchangeable are the parts? I haven't been able to find what carb the Enforcer has, I am assuming something similar to the Hawk. I plan on adding some after market parts and mods. Air box, exhaust, jets......and most of all the digital speedo.

2. Hawk hand guards...can they be used?

3.What are the bikes based off of? I have heard Honda but year and make would be great. May be an easy way to get parts that need little retro fitting like an FMF exhaust.


Anyone else have this bike that has some helpful info?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2017, 09:46 PM   #2
dpl096   dpl096 is offline
 
dpl096's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: East Central Hellinois
Posts: 1,344
Welcome aboard !
__________________
************************************************** ***

" Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted." - John Lennon

“I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
― Thomas Jefferson

"If you don't know where you're going any road will take you there" ....George Harrison song


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2017, 10:58 AM   #3
2LZ   2LZ is offline
 
2LZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Volcano, Ca
Posts: 7,082
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcwhorter-enforcer View Post
So I am really new to CR forum to start out with.

I actually intended to buy a Honda CRF250L but after talking to my bank I was actually going to need to put down the same amount that the Enforcer cost and have payments for the next 2 years.....screw that.

There is a huge following for the Hawk and they look almost identical so I have a few questions for the experts.

Here we go:

1.How interchangeable are the parts? I haven't been able to find what carb the Enforcer has, I am assuming something similar to the Hawk. I plan on adding some after market parts and mods. Air box, exhaust, jets......and most of all the digital speedo.

2. Hawk hand guards...can they be used?

3.What are the bikes based off of? I have heard Honda but year and make would be great. May be an easy way to get parts that need little retro fitting like an FMF exhaust.


Anyone else have this bike that has some helpful info?
Your first statement is why many of us went with China Bikes. Sticker shock will make the brain do funny things.

1- Most parts on most Hondoids are interchangeable. Brakes, levers, many of the motors, etc.... They're readily available on A,azon, EBay, Tao Bao, etc...

2- You can fit most handguards that fit 7/8" bars.

3- The engines are CG Honda clones, originally 125's. Honda never imported in to the US but most everywhere else. It's a VERY reliable motor. The bike/frame itself is the latest greatest coming out of China. It's the newest generation of their stuff. I'm not sure if it's based off of anything. Someone else can chime in.
__________________
"Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life."

2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert)
2009 Q Link XP 200
1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire
2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411
1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2017, 02:21 PM   #4
xSAVAGEx   xSAVAGEx is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Bradenton FL
Posts: 6
The Enforcer is a pretty good stock bike. This is what I did to mine.

Ebay exhaust: Just need to work the pipe around the airbox. Mark some points and bend and hammer so that there is a 3/4 inch gap. I used a little heat wrap like MOTOCHEEZ

Carb: The stock jet on the Enforcer is a 105. I upgraded to a 110 and looking to a 115. They just screw in and out. There are tons of threads with links to Amazon and Ebay

Tubes: Highly suggest ordering some heavy duty tubes. The stock tubes are as thin as bicycle tubes and the seems will split.

LED bulbs: Look for replacement bulbs to ease the charging system.

Gearing: The gearing is already upgraded to a smaller rear sprocket.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2017, 03:00 PM   #5
mcwhorter-enforcer   mcwhorter-enforcer is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 52
Wow thanks for the fast responses. I am hoping to have the bike by the end of next week. I called the dealer that is listed in Tennessee and he said it takes two to three days to process and a couple days to ship so hopefully those are worst case scenario numbers and come sooner. Looking forward to this bike.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2017, 03:53 PM   #6
mcwhorter-enforcer   mcwhorter-enforcer is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 52
So with those questions out of the way...

What fluids should I change before riding? I have heard a lot of people on here say to change the brake fluid, fork fluid, and the oil. Any recommendations on type or brand for all three?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2017, 05:19 PM   #7
Megadan   Megadan is offline
 
Megadan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 7,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcwhorter-enforcer View Post
So with those questions out of the way...

What fluids should I change before riding? I have heard a lot of people on here say to change the brake fluid, fork fluid, and the oil. Any recommendations on type or brand for all three?
Some people will tell you to run it as is, but I am against that thought process. Just because they did it and it was fine doesn't mean it was a good idea. Most of the fluids and oils in these bikes are there for shipping purposes. None of them are expensive or difficult to change to a good known brand fluid.

Brake fluid, DOT 3 or DOT 4. Either will work fine, but most people opt for DOT 4. Both can be found at the parts store.

Forks - there are two mentalities here. Many use ATF, and even OE Manufacturers for the longest time would use ATF and recommend it in their forks.
I suggest a good name brand fork oil. Purpose built fork oil has anti-foaming agents to help keep the fluid stable during operation. Brand wise, there are a lot of good choices. Maxima, Valvoline, Lucas, Pro Honda, PJ1, Yamaha, etc. Personally, I love PJ1 or Pro Honda, but they will all do the job. Depending on your weight and personal preference you can run different weights to tailor how the bike behaves. I run a 15wt oil in mine, and it is usually a good starting point since it sits right in the middle of the scale.

Engine oil - everybody has opinions on what is best, so take your pick. As long as the oil is JASO rated oil for use with wet clutches. I use Shell Rotella T4 15w-40 in both of my bikes. It's a great proven oil, it's affordable, and it can be found damn near everywhere. You can buy a 4 quart jug of it from Wal Mart for about 13 bucks, and a typical CG250 engine takes about 1.5 quarts to get to the middle of the sight glass with the bike vertical, so 2 jugs = 6 oil changes for $26

Also, make sure to set the valve clearances before running the engine. They will come with 0 lash adjustment, and should be set to .003, plus or minus .001. Many people run .003 intake and .004 exhaust, but you can set them both the same.
__________________
Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331
2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1
2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650
https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124


 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2019, 11:49 PM   #8
Pkripper22   Pkripper22 is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 2
Hey which ebay exhaust is compatible with the bashan enforcer 250cc? I just need to be pointed in the right direction so I don't buy the wrong one. I heard the crf230s ,hawk and tt250 are compatible but im not 100%. Sure. Thanks


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2017, 03:24 PM   #9
mcwhorter-enforcer   mcwhorter-enforcer is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 52
Well, I am still waiting for the Enforcer to arrive. I was hoping www.apscusa.com had time to sort out the issues on their delivery time but I guess they have not. I have heard a lot of complaints lately but I was hoping it was figured out. After multiple phone calls and several estimates I am now being told it will not ship before the end of next week.

I am more patient than my wife....but I am getting my butt chewed because there is $1500 missing from my account and nothing to show for it. Really need the China bike gods to move this along...tired of being told "shoulda bought the Honda" lol.

So much for 2-3 days to process then ship.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2017, 05:42 PM   #10
culcune   culcune is offline
 
culcune's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
Posts: 9,035
Sorry to hear they STILL don't have their act in order!? When Kandi USA was distributing the Bashan Brozz and Shark, I referred several people to my friend Alan from Excalibur Motorsports, but Kandi only ordered a few containers of those bikes, and they ran out; Alan does not deal with the company that distributes the Enforcer and Storm, so those are left to the flaky dealers, unfortunately.
__________________
"They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..."

TGB Delivery Scooter 150
TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2017, 11:25 AM   #11
BigWeld   BigWeld is offline
 
BigWeld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: East Pembroke, NY
Posts: 301
Quote:
Originally Posted by culcune View Post
Sorry to hear they STILL don't have their act in order!? When Kandi USA was distributing the Bashan Brozz and Shark, I referred several people to my friend Alan from Excalibur Motorsports, but Kandi only ordered a few containers of those bikes, and they ran out; Alan does not deal with the company that distributes the Enforcer and Storm, so those are left to the flaky dealers, unfortunately.
Is there a somewhat reputable dealer that has any Storms still in stock? This might sound crazy, but I'm seriously considering another Bashan when money gets better around here....possibly setting up one for 100% street commuter, the other would never see the pavement.
__________________

Rides a 2016 Bashan 18C with Blue PlastiDip, piped and jetted, USB charger, real-time digital volt meter, faux carbon fiber handguards, 5 COB led headlight upgrade, auxiliary led light bars, and an MSR shift lever with new grips, T6 aluminum handlebars anodized in blue, polished handlebar brace, decals, HD Unibear chain and spoke covers waiting on the always-full mod shelf......


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2017, 07:30 PM   #12
Jeepers creepers   Jeepers creepers is offline
 
Jeepers creepers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2
Did get your enforcer yet? I've been waiting since May


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2017, 10:48 AM   #13
mcwhorter-enforcer   mcwhorter-enforcer is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 52
No I have not received it and I talked to them again on Wednesday. I asked the guy how they can advertise 2-3 days processing yet its been 3 weeks and has not shipped. When asked how they can advertise its in stock but they keep saying the are still waiting on the shipper the guy got pretty nasty and defensive.

He then went on to tell me that there are people that have been waiting 90 plus days! How is that possible if they are "in stock"?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2017, 11:14 AM   #14
Wigwam Jones   Wigwam Jones is offline
 
Wigwam Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 86
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcwhorter-enforcer View Post
No I have not received it and I talked to them again on Wednesday. I asked the guy how they can advertise 2-3 days processing yet its been 3 weeks and has not shipped. When asked how they can advertise its in stock but they keep saying the are still waiting on the shipper the guy got pretty nasty and defensive.

He then went on to tell me that there are people that have been waiting 90 plus days! How is that possible if they are "in stock"?
I suspect that it depends on what the definition of 'in stock' happens to be. It seems to me that most of the people selling these Chinese bikes are buying them from a wholesaler who imports them in huge containers and then they are drop-shipped from various warehouses around the country to the purchasers address.

So let's say I am dealer A. I make a retail distribution deal with wholesaler/importer X, who gives me a list of the bikes he has in containers either on hand or on the way from China on a ship. I list them as 'in stock' on my website, based on what the wholesaler has told me.

Customer Z buys a bike from me, and I place the drop-ship order to my wholesaler/importer. They send the order to the warehouse, which attempts to fulfill it. If the bike ordered is indeed in stock, then they make a deal with a carrier to pick up and deliver. Because they deal with price points, they shop for the best deal possible. It may take awhile for a carrier to become available. Or, the bike might not be in stock after all or it might have been in stock at the time the dealer put the bike on his website, but then it was sold and he didn't get the word, or if he did, he didn't update his website quickly.

Or it could be that the dealer is a guy making a quick buck on a low-margin item, and that he has little or no concern for what happens after he gets paid. He is not planning to be around for decades. He has no retail showroom, no inventory, probably not many employees, if any at all. He's literally a one-man show with a website and a sketchy business plan.

I'm sure there are lots of other reasons. However, in my opinion, if you go into one of these transactions without doing your due diligence and understanding what you're getting into, you're likely to get burned.

Some other person posting that they bought from XYZ dealer and their bike arrived in 3 days and in perfect condition and they got the MSO or other paperwork a couple days after that, and they mistake *anecdotal evidence* for actual proof that this is the typical way the dealer responds. It might be - it might not be. The purchaser has to do their homework.

"Do you have the item in stock" is a valid question, and you'd think it has an easy answer. However, a better question might be "Do you stock the item yourself and is it physically in your possession?" The seller might still lie - can't stop bad people from telling tales - but it pins them down; the can't hedge their words, it's either yes or no.

Best of luck, I hope everything works out well for you.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2017, 10:49 PM   #15
mcwhorter-enforcer   mcwhorter-enforcer is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Posts: 52
Well, still no notice the Enforcer has been shipped. I was told on Friday that they were going to have them out by the end of the day. This right here is why China bikes cant take hold in the U.S.. Its not a matter of people doing the work, its the fact you cant trust any of these company's to stand by their word.

There are no dealer checks and balances.You pull this at Honda and at least you know you still have options to call.

I am seriously having doubts that I will ever see my $1500 without going to court and even then I am sure I will never see it. Sucks....


 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bashan, enforcer



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.