Stuck drain bolt. Help? - TaoTao Hellcat 125cc

AUDAN2019 · 08-11-2019, 10:26 AM

Welp, first oil change and the piece of crap drain bolt is too damn tight. Already damaged it using vice grips after unsuccessfully unscrewing it using a regular wrench. Tried turning both left and right. My torque wrench didn't have sockets large enough. I might just go ahead siphon the oil out but what happens when I have to change the filter? Why can't manufacturers just use screws instead of stupid bolts. Thankfully this bike was only 1000$ practice bike so if it ends up ruined then it's not a huge money loss but I obviously want to take care of it and I can't just take it to a dealer unlike my Japanese scooter. Plz help...

dirtbkr188 · 08-11-2019, 11:30 AM

Normally, the drain bolt on the horizontal engines is a 17mm metric head size, maybe you can try a 16mm 6-point socket tapped on with a hammer, just to remove it, and then dress up the 6 sides of the bolt until you can get another one.
It would be right-hand threads, BTW...

Red Hawk · 08-12-2019, 09:16 PM

You’ll need a stripped bolt socket. They work well. Notice it’s not a cheap noname brand cause if these fail it’s bad.
https://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Tools-5...gateway&sr=8-5

Tap it hard over the bad head so it takes a bite. Might have to gently lay the bike over to gain better axis. Times like this you’ll go from bad to worse if you rush or don’t make a calculated approach so work smart. Murphy’s law has a sense of humor I don’t like.

Don’t toss the bolt so fast, use it to match up a replacement on length. Napa has a lot. Good luck.

Douglass · 08-13-2019, 05:32 PM

Could you post a picture of what your working with?

Have you tired using a six point socket?

Bruces · 08-13-2019, 07:48 PM

You can try welding a nut to the bolt head and removing it that way ,and I have used a pipe wrench dozens of times on badly mangled crap customers have brought me ,but your first tool should always be a six point wrench or socket so it doesn’t make a mess in the first place .

08-11-2019, 10:26 AM	#1
AUDAN2019 Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 12	Stuck drain bolt. Help? - TaoTao Hellcat 125cc Welp, first oil change and the piece of crap drain bolt is too damn tight. Already damaged it using vice grips after unsuccessfully unscrewing it using a regular wrench. Tried turning both left and right. My torque wrench didn't have sockets large enough. I might just go ahead siphon the oil out but what happens when I have to change the filter? Why can't manufacturers just use screws instead of stupid bolts. Thankfully this bike was only 1000$ practice bike so if it ends up ruined then it's not a huge money loss but I obviously want to take care of it and I can't just take it to a dealer unlike my Japanese scooter. Plz help... Last edited by AUDAN2019; 08-11-2019 at 11:05 AM.
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08-12-2019, 09:16 PM	#3
Red Hawk Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: NEPA Posts: 273	You’ll need a stripped bolt socket. They work well. Notice it’s not a cheap noname brand cause if these fail it’s bad. https://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Tools-5...gateway&sr=8-5 Tap it hard over the bad head so it takes a bite. Might have to gently lay the bike over to gain better axis. Times like this you’ll go from bad to worse if you rush or don’t make a calculated approach so work smart. Murphy’s law has a sense of humor I don’t like. Don’t toss the bolt so fast, use it to match up a replacement on length. Napa has a lot. Good luck. __________________ 2018 Hawk P&P Decked .040 off the head. 17/43 D.I.D. 428, NGK Iridium plug, DeCat, Wrapped pipe, Custom S.S. Muffler core, Nibbi PE30 115/35, L.E.D. Lights, Digital Cluster, USB port, Cutting Bord skid plate, Oil cooler w/ custom CRF oil filter inline, 5Wt fork oil, Rear Shock, CNC Back Rack, 30mm FAT bars, Bark Busters, ProGrips, Adjustable levers, Shinko 700’s lots of Loctite!
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08-11-2019, 11:30 AM	#2
dirtbkr188 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 496	Normally, the drain bolt on the horizontal engines is a 17mm metric head size, maybe you can try a 16mm 6-point socket tapped on with a hammer, just to remove it, and then dress up the 6 sides of the bolt until you can get another one. It would be right-hand threads, BTW...
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08-13-2019, 05:32 PM	#4
Douglass Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 375	Could you post a picture of what your working with? Have you tired using a six point socket?
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08-13-2019, 07:48 PM	#5
Bruces Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 1,572	You can try welding a nut to the bolt head and removing it that way ,and I have used a pipe wrench dozens of times on badly mangled crap customers have brought me ,but your first tool should always be a six point wrench or socket so it doesn’t make a mess in the first place .
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