Is Safer Wholesale Safe? - Page 4

Merlin · 06-23-2016, 02:21 PM

Well I talked with the people over at Safer Wholesale and they tried to help me out with different bikes but Iam going to stick with the Will. The point is they did all they could to help me out. They seem to have good service to me. So I can at this stage recommend Safer Wholesale. We will see what happens.

Mag00 · 06-23-2016, 05:13 PM

I have a 250 Storm and it is a very nice bike. The 12L tank, lower seat height and counterbalanced engine, with rack and handguards for $1,500 delivered.

simonjester · 06-23-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mag00

I have a 250 Storm and it is a very nice bike. The 12L tank, lower seat height and counterbalanced engine, with rack and handguards for $1,500 delivered.

Who did you buy your Storm from?

BlackBike · 06-23-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

Ok now I can see it. Thanks. Seems like the Will 250 would still be better then a Hawk 250 as far a longevity and smooth ride? I wonder which bike has a better rep? I cant find much info about the Will 250? With a rack it could be ok. Is $1500 dollars with a one year warranty shipped a good deal or did I get ripped?

I don't think I have seen a production year model of a will bike past 2014. Could be wrong

Merlin · 06-23-2016, 10:36 PM

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I don't think I have seen a production year model of a will bike past 2014. Could be wrong

It might be a 2014?

Merlin · 06-23-2016, 11:00 PM

What can anyone tell me about the Bashan Will 250 engine. Is it a Yamaha or Honda clone? Is it a push rod or counterbalance? Any info would help. Thanks.

2LZ · 06-24-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

What can anyone tell me about the Bashan Will 250 engine. Is it a Yamaha or Honda clone? Is it a push rod or counterbalance? Any info would help. Thanks.

According to Azhule's photos, it appears to be a counterbalanced, pushrod CG type (Hondoid) motor. His looks to be a 163FML if it's a 200cc, as it appears to be. I have both the 163FML and 169FMM and feel virtually zero difference in performance between the 200 and 250 version of these, modded almost the same. My Xmoto 163FML (200) is a real runner, even with the stock carb jetted correctly.

Azhule · 06-24-2016, 03:18 PM

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According to Azhule's photos, it appears to be a counterbalanced, pushrod CG type (Hondoid) motor. His looks to be a 163FML if it's a 200cc, as it appears to be. I have both the 163FML and 169FMM and feel virtually zero difference in performance between the 200 and 250 version of these, modded almost the same. My Xmoto 163FML (200) is a real runner, even with the stock carb jetted correctly.

164FML is stamped on my engine... can't find much info on it other than what is in the crap owners manual... but this little engine packs some nice hp/torque for it's size and "China Badge"... after some proper tuning of course

Merlin · 06-24-2016, 04:36 PM

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164FML is stamped on my engine... can't find much info on it other than what is in the crap owners manual... but this little engine packs some nice hp/torque for it's size and "China Badge"... after some proper tuning of course

Will I have to rejet out of the box up here in Colorado at 8500 feet or can I adjust the clips or air gas to get to it run?

2LZ · 06-24-2016, 05:00 PM

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Will I have to rejet out of the box up here in Colorado at 8500 feet or can I adjust the clips or air gas to get to it run?

Heck, CB's generally come super lean anyway. At 8500 feet, it may run like a champ!

Merlin · 06-24-2016, 05:30 PM

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Heck, CB's generally come super lean anyway. At 8500 feet, it may run like a champ!

Ya thats what I hope.

Mag00 · 06-24-2016, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by simonjester

Who did you buy your Storm from?

Superior Power Sports. I had no issues with purchase, delivery or MSO.

They did not seem so willing to help with getting parts like when I broke the lever or air filter replacement. (They didn't help at all)

simonjester · 06-24-2016, 07:02 PM

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Superior Power Sports. I had no issues with purchase, delivery or MSO.

They did not seem so willing to help with getting parts like when I broke the lever or air filter replacement. (They didn't help at all)

Thanks. Good to know. That's who I was planning on buying a Storm from.

spatial37 · 06-24-2016, 07:08 PM

Three weeks ago I ordered Storm 250 (DB-08-250) from them. After that I made two calls to the sales person to verify if the DB-08-250 model would be shipped. He ensured me it will definitely be DB-08-250. Upon delivery I opened the box and ..... found absolutely different bike in it (actually DB-07K-250, which is several hundred dollars cheaper than ordered Storm 250)! On the phone they talk to me like I am an idiot who unable to recognize ordered bike. They also told me if I refuse it, they will charge me for 30 % restocking fee. Only after I sent a picture of the carton box with wrong model indicated on it, and told them that I am about to put it on the dispute with my credit card company, they agreed to make a full refund. By the way, later it was figured out that at the time of placing my order, the DB-08-250 model was out of stock. Seems like saferwholesale provide "mushroom politics" with customers: "Keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em bullshit".

simonjester · 06-24-2016, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spatial37

Three weeks ago I ordered Storm 250 (DB-08-250) from them. After that I made two calls to the sales person to verify if the DB-08-250 model would be shipped. He ensured me it will definitely be DB-08-250. Upon delivery I opened the box and ..... found absolutely different bike in it (actually DB-07K-250, which is several hundred dollars cheaper than ordered Storm 250)! On the phone they talk to me like I am an idiot who unable to recognize ordered bike. They also told me if I refuse it, they will charge me for 30 % restocking fee. Only after I sent a picture of the carton box with wrong model indicated on it, and told them that I am about to put it on the dispute with my credit card company, they agreed to make a full refund. By the way, later it was figured out that at the time of placing my order, the DB-08-250 model was out of stock. Seems like www.saferwholesale.com provide "mushroom politics" with customers: "Keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em bullshit".

Good lesson to always pay with a credit card.

06-23-2016, 05:13 PM	#47
Mag00 Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 192	I have a 250 Storm and it is a very nice bike. The 12L tank, lower seat height and counterbalanced engine, with rack and handguards for $1,500 delivered. __________________ Bashan 250 Storm Husqvarna TR650 Honda Metropolitan Be a Piggy!
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06-23-2016, 02:21 PM	#46
Merlin Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,107	Well I talked with the people over at Safer Wholesale and they tried to help me out with different bikes but Iam going to stick with the Will. The point is they did all they could to help me out. They seem to have good service to me. So I can at this stage recommend Safer Wholesale. We will see what happens.
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06-23-2016, 11:00 PM	#51
Merlin Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,107	What can anyone tell me about the Bashan Will 250 engine. Is it a Yamaha or Honda clone? Is it a push rod or counterbalance? Any info would help. Thanks.
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06-24-2016, 07:08 PM	#59
spatial37 Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 2	Three weeks ago I ordered Storm 250 (DB-08-250) from them. After that I made two calls to the sales person to verify if the DB-08-250 model would be shipped. He ensured me it will definitely be DB-08-250. Upon delivery I opened the box and ..... found absolutely different bike in it (actually DB-07K-250, which is several hundred dollars cheaper than ordered Storm 250)! On the phone they talk to me like I am an idiot who unable to recognize ordered bike. They also told me if I refuse it, they will charge me for 30 % restocking fee. Only after I sent a picture of the carton box with wrong model indicated on it, and told them that I am about to put it on the dispute with my credit card company, they agreed to make a full refund. By the way, later it was figured out that at the time of placing my order, the DB-08-250 model was out of stock. Seems like saferwholesale provide "mushroom politics" with customers: "Keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em bullshit".
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