Magician Dual Sport

wheelbender6 · 06-12-2016, 01:22 PM

Anybody have any experience with the Magician250? Curious as to whether it has a push rod engine like most other chinese 250s, or an overhead cam.
https://www.txpowersports.com/New_Ma...ming-soon!.htm

fitze · 06-12-2016, 02:39 PM

It has the same engine as the Hawk. In China it is called Tricker and use many types of engines 125 to 250 OHV or OHC. I liked riding a test bike with the OHC (suzuki clone engine).

fitze · 06-12-2016, 04:27 PM

One other thing , The Magician is a DIRT BIKE, you will still have the same registration problems in some states as the Hawk for on highway use.

newrider93 · 06-12-2016, 07:48 PM

It's an automatic instead of manual. Interesting.....

david3921 · 06-12-2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by newrider93

It's an automatic instead of manual. Interesting.....

I'm not seeing this information. The pictures show a clutch lever and gear shift.

Edit: Found it....even though it's not correct. It's a 5 speed.

250 CC,Air cooled, 4-stroke, 1-cylinder,automatic
Start Type: Electric start and Kick start
Transmission: Chain Drive
Engine Gear: 5 gears
Shift Gear: Hand

pistolclass · 06-12-2016, 11:21 PM

Maybe I'm old school but i think that silly little front fender looks rediculous.never been a big fan of those fenders on dirt bikes.

Oengus · 09-23-2016, 12:24 PM

You have to wonder why the importer would bring over dual sports that are not street legal?

Particularly the copy of the Yamaha Tricker which primarily is a street bike? The Tricker is a cross between a trials bike and a dual sport. It is just a real light and maneuverable model.

The genuine Yamaha Tricker

These copies started coming out of the Chinese factories a year or so ago, some are better then others.
I think they are great however the design is right protected by Yamaha, so importing them in any legitimacy is not really possible unless Yamaha has allowed the copies.

All street motorcycles sold in the USA have to meet FMVSS regulations and also have an EPA certificate.
It does not matter which state you reside in, though it may be possible that your state does not enforce federal regulations. Figuring that out is crap shoot and most people prefer to be totally legal then beat the system.

I am surprised that at this point any importer would go back to this practice, importing illegal models.
Who wants to buy a street bike that cannot get a licence plate?

2LZ · 09-23-2016, 03:24 PM

Oengus! Where the heck have you and your vast knowledge been hiding!? Welcome back!

jimwildman · 09-23-2016, 06:05 PM

Its amazing how good they have gotten at copying!
They should put as much effort into learning to design new models themselves..

motorcyclelove · 09-23-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Oengus

You have to wonder why the importer would bring over dual sports that are not street legal?

Particularly the copy of the Yamaha Tricker which primarily is a street bike? The Tricker is a cross between a trials bike and a dual sport. It is just a real light and maneuverable model.

The genuine Yamaha Tricker

These copies started coming out of the Chinese factories a year or so ago, some are better then others.
I think they are great however the design is right protected by Yamaha, so importing them in any legitimacy is not really possible unless Yamaha has allowed the copies.

All street motorcycles sold in the USA have to meet FMVSS regulations and also have an EPA certificate.
It does not matter which state you reside in, though it may be possible that your state does not enforce federal regulations. Figuring that out is crap shoot and most people prefer to be totally legal then beat the system.

I am surprised that at this point any importer would go back to this practice, importing illegal models.
Who wants to buy a street bike that cannot get a licence plate?

Motocheez who I have nothing against and like did a update video of his magacian this week. Said he hasn't ridden it much while he videod riding it in the woods. I noticed no tag, no wonder he hadn't ridden it much, you can't get a tag! I love his videos and his knowledge but folks he got that bike for free.

hertz9753 · 09-23-2016, 06:57 PM

He also mentioned that he wasn't sure if he was going to plate it or sell it next year.

Oengus · 09-24-2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

Oengus! Where the heck have you and your vast knowledge been hiding!? Welcome back!

I was pulled back by the Magician? I have always wanted one of these, Shineray I would say makes the best version of one.

Oengus · 09-24-2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753

He also mentioned that he wasn't sure if he was going to plate it or sell it next year.

From what I have read the Hawk is not any different, he seems to have gotten that plated? At least he is ridding it on the roads.

Its pretty simple I guess you contact whoever in your jurisdiction titles/registers vehicles and ask what that entails.

If it does not require a physical inspection of the vehicle then that is a plus, however some actually check the databases of the NHSTA and EPA neither are listed are they?

Yet they are selling them and people are getting plates so obviously not every state is checking are they. That is a crap shoot for sure.

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hertz9753 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 868	He also mentioned that he wasn't sure if he was going to plate it or sell it next year. __________________ 2015 and 3/4 RPS Hawk 250. Most people would call it a 2016 but the MCO didn't.
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06-12-2016, 02:39 PM	#2
fitze Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 63	It has the same engine as the Hawk. In China it is called Tricker and use many types of engines 125 to 250 OHV or OHC. I liked riding a test bike with the OHC (suzuki clone engine).
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06-12-2016, 04:27 PM	#3
fitze Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 63	One other thing , The Magician is a DIRT BIKE, you will still have the same registration problems in some states as the Hawk for on highway use.
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06-12-2016, 11:21 PM	#6
pistolclass Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: connecticut Posts: 978	Maybe I'm old school but i think that silly little front fender looks rediculous.never been a big fan of those fenders on dirt bikes.
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09-23-2016, 12:24 PM	#7
Oengus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 826	You have to wonder why the importer would bring over dual sports that are not street legal? Particularly the copy of the Yamaha Tricker which primarily is a street bike? The Tricker is a cross between a trials bike and a dual sport. It is just a real light and maneuverable model. The genuine Yamaha Tricker These copies started coming out of the Chinese factories a year or so ago, some are better then others. I think they are great however the design is right protected by Yamaha, so importing them in any legitimacy is not really possible unless Yamaha has allowed the copies. All street motorcycles sold in the USA have to meet FMVSS regulations and also have an EPA certificate. It does not matter which state you reside in, though it may be possible that your state does not enforce federal regulations. Figuring that out is crap shoot and most people prefer to be totally legal then beat the system. I am surprised that at this point any importer would go back to this practice, importing illegal models. Who wants to buy a street bike that cannot get a licence plate?
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09-23-2016, 06:05 PM	#9
jimwildman Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 237	Its amazing how good they have gotten at copying! They should put as much effort into learning to design new models themselves..
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