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vividpixel 03-13-2024 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vekenti (Post 405524)
Actually, the carb mounted push/pull plunger works!

Oh, good! I can see the advantage of making more room on the bars and having no cable to deal with.

I've appreciated the convenience of having it near the clutch lever, and no worry that I forgot to switch it off. If anyone else replaces the stock clutch lever and needs an idea of how to mount the choke lever, I think this may be my least janky configuration yet:
https://i.ibb.co/6b7YvDZ/IMG-2370.jpg

Weresquatch 03-16-2024 02:29 PM

Okay, maybe dumb question but is there a trip meter on the Templar X or am I just supposed to remember what the mileage was when I fueled up. I can live without a gas gauge but....

Thumper 03-16-2024 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Weresquatch (Post 405699)
Okay, maybe dumb question but is there a trip meter on the Templar X or am I just supposed to remember what the mileage was when I fueled up. I can live without a gas gauge but....

Correction: Mine works the same way. Single short press on the button toggles between odometer and tripmeter. When in trip meter mode, hold down button to reset.

I guess I got the exact same one on the early 2022 5 speed X.

Texas Pete 03-16-2024 03:32 PM

I have a trip meter on my Templar X 250 2022 1/2 6-Speed model. Single press button toggles between OD and trip on my bike. I run mine up to 80 miles then consider filling up again next time I have the time to. Hold down button on trip and it resets after fill up so it can keep track all over again. :tup:

Mikd 03-17-2024 11:55 AM

For the handlebar mounted choke lever I added two orings on top the plastic spacer on the bolt that it pivots on. This provided a bit of drag that allows the choke to stay where you put while the bike is warming up.

Diehard 03-17-2024 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vividpixel (Post 405584)
Oh, good! I can see the advantage of making more room on the bars and having no cable to deal with.

I've appreciated the convenience of having it near the clutch lever, and no worry that I forgot to switch it off. If anyone else replaces the stock clutch lever and needs an idea of how to mount the choke lever, I think this may be my least janky configuration yet:
https://i.ibb.co/6b7YvDZ/IMG-2370.jpg

Any chance you could share the link for those blue levers for clutch choke and brake? Tia

vividpixel 03-17-2024 04:20 PM

I don't have a matching brake lever, but the clutch is here:
a. co/d/bu3qk3x (PRO CAKEN 7/8‘’ 22mm Universal Motorcycle CNC Short Stunt Clutch Lever Aluminum Alloy)
Feels like a quality lever, stiff pull. There's a non-short version here that I returned, but it felt just as solid: a.co/d/0KrJ3wI

The brake lever is part of this universal set, but these are quite loose and snap off easily.
a. co/d/ihWKHGI (MRELC Universal Motorcycle 7/8" 22mm Handlebar Brake Master Cylinder Clutch Lever CNC Left & Right Set)

Okierider 03-17-2024 07:37 PM

So any word on replacement wheel bearings for the Templars?
Took my rear off to (finally) install my 40 tooth sprocket and both rear bearings are shot. Fronts are sounding suspect too…

Edit-so mine were seized solid on each side of the rear wheel.
Pounded one side out and to my surprise 2 bearings came out, and 2 from the other side as well.
Minus the one that was destroyed in the process, once removed from the bike all are flawless working bearings. They were just crammed in so tight the pinched each other.
All 4 are “61905RS 010 C&U 01A03” so replacing them should be easy.
Only question is why 2 per side?

Diehard 03-18-2024 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=vividpixel;405740]I don't have a matching brake lever, but the clutch is here:
a. co/d/bu3qk3x (PRO CAKEN 7/8‘’ 22mm Universal Motorcycle CNC Short Stunt Clutch Lever al set ty apreciate the info

Weresquatch 03-18-2024 12:50 PM

NICE. I'm surprised I missed that. I thought that only changed between Kph/mph.

Weresquatch 03-18-2024 12:54 PM

Well, I'm still breaking in my X but gave it 40 miles yesterday with about half of that on beaten-to-heck fireroad with lots of loose gravel. The bike did pretty darn well. I learned that I am in *NO WAY* comfortable shifting in my new ONeil Rider MX boots. I've never owned a set and finding the brake and shifter had a few butt clinchy moments. The brakes are better than they feel like. What I mean is they are soft pull but but they grab in a hurry. The stock tires at whatever the stock psi is felt strong. Rear end got a bit squirrely but absolutely manageable. I'm still at only 110 miles. I won't start hammering on it until I'm at 200 miles and I change the oil again.

Diehard 03-18-2024 04:50 PM

Any leads for a stronger rear brake pedal i folded mine back and under the foot peg yesterday 2023 templar x

Thumper 03-18-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Okierider (Post 405746)
So any word on replacement wheel bearings for the Templars?

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Minus the one that was destroyed in the process, once removed from the bike all are flawless working bearings. They were just crammed in so tight the pinched each other.
All 4 are “61905RS 010 C&U 01A03” so replacing them should be easy.
Only question is why 2 per side?

Bearing part 61905RS has typical nomenclature for a sealed bearing.
THANK YOU for that !!

Replacements I find all seem to be 9mm width, 25mm inner diameter, 42mm outer diameter. Is this what you measure on them?

Regarding the double bearing question... Was there a center sleeve (bushing) between them? Here is a typical layout:

Attachment 31028

The center sleeve width/fit is CRITICAL for bearing life. If the bearing is torqued with inner race pushed laterally and outer race not moving, this causes bearing failure, quick!! This is the reason I never apply the high torque I hear people talking about for the axel bolt/nut on my China made bikes. And, I've never had my axel nut loosen- Lock ring is there for friction, no need to. If all of the specs are perfect, you may be able to tighten more, but I don't think we get such great fitment!

Here is an Allballs rear wheel bearing kit for my KTM 250SX. It comes with a replacement inner bushing.

Attachment 31029

Was there a bushing/inner sleeve in the Templar rear wheel?

If not, then when you tighten the axel nut, the inner races are torqued inwards with no support, causing lateral force on the bearing-probable fail!

Okierider 03-18-2024 09:09 PM

Here is the layout as it came out of my wheel, Demonstrated for just one side here as the other two bearings for the other side are elsewhere-

https://i.postimg.cc/kGTXvgv2/IMG-9459.jpg

Outer spacer-seal-bearing-bearing-internal spacer-bearing-bearing-seal-outer spacer.

And yes it checks out as 25x42x9. Most of the trade references should properly be -2RS (2 rubber seals) or -2RS1 for big makers like SKF. They are also seemingly the same as a 6905-2RS. I think Timken has them listed as such but I know SKF does. Markings indicate C&U Bearings-“the largest bearing producer in China and one of the top 8 bearing manufacturers worldwide...” seemed to be fairly standard deep groove ball bearings, didn’t outwardly appear cheap and even after pounding one of the races with a flathead screwdriver to get it out it still spun fairly well, though the rubber seal was shot. Not the best, but far from the worst.
Of note-very little evidence of ANY lubricant used for install. Aside from the internal grease in the bearings everything else was VERY dry.

https://i.postimg.cc/d1K1qX0V/IMG-9460.jpg

Bearings were SMASHED into the center spacer and then into each other. Absolutely zero movement until I got one to budge, then everything started spinning.

superjocko 03-18-2024 10:49 PM

Maybe the logic is that two Chinese made bearings equals one good bearing. Just kidding, of course (kind of). ;)


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