Azhule also lives in Colorado where he can ride downhill--BIG downhill! I will third the Brozz; SANY had a good experience with his 2016, and so has Letsride (his is new, old stock--2014?--you will probably have to talk to the place he got his to see what kind of deal they can get you).

Of course, all these suggestions about the other bikes show that the other bikes cost more than the price on Motobuys for the Will, so if budget is a concern, that is understood.

My concern with the budget Bashans is that the members who purchased them seemed to have issues; minor-ish issues that don't seem to be on the higher-priced Bashan models. Letsride found all kinds of goodies on his Brozz that won't be found on the Will or Blaze (stock carb, high speed sprockets, etc). In fact, all those who join the Hawk cult seem to have to either upgrade their carb and sprocket, or drill things to play with the jets on their stock carb. But, the Hawk seems to be fine and not have minor-ish issues, with the downside it can be hit or miss with registration (read over that thread someone linked above; it was recently posted from a happy New Yorker who successfully registered his Hawk).

Where can I look for a brozz!? Thanks for the input my budget is 1400 to 1800

Whether it's the Brozz, Shark, Hawk, TT250 or Enforcer (I may have missed one), I'd DEFINITELY go with one of the new generation China Bikes over an older model. The plastics, frame, etc....are just superior to anything I've seen in the last 5-8 years.

Storm 250 should not be overlooked, if you can find one. They seem to get shipments in, and then they sell out. They are in the same league as their Bashan 'brothers' the Brozz and Shark, but they offer the 21" front/18" rear as one of their most obvious differences. Not sure what other differences they have from the Shark/Brozz, but Bashan definitely have a group of 3 that seem to be head and shoulders good as bone stock bikes vs. the competition and their own lower priced offerings like the Blaze, the Will, and, time will tell, the Enforcer. This is based on JD Power...okay, Chinariders.net members, initial quality reports and long-term reports on these bikes. They are good as stock vs. the other high-quality popular bike, the Hawk, but that bike may or may not be a 'go' for NY, as well as the fact that it pretty much needs to be modified to make it 'perfect' (carb and sprockets). The TT250 is a great bike, but arguably would probably need a new rear sprocket for your needs (not a big cost), and is several hundred above your budget.

All top speed runs are on flat land, with a full tank of gas, and a GPS to verify Trail Tech Vapor speeds, no cheating going on with my numbers ;)

120lbs, fully tucked over the small 2.1 gallon gas tank and you too can pick up some major speed with a small amount of cc's :hehe:

If you can find a Storm 250, that would be a great choice IMO, some places had them for 1,399 to 1,499 shipped a while back... but only had 2 colors to choose from

Powersportsmax.com has all the Bashan bikes. Now its up to you whether you want to order from them is up to you. I chose not to. WAY too many negative reviews on independent review sites. The 2015 Brozz has the inverted forks. My left over 2014 does not. I got mine from a dealer in Atlanta that has access to the Peace Sports New old stock. I most likely will be going back there to get another Brozz because I'm giving mine to my son for Graduation.

I think I will stick to Motobuys and see if I get great luck again. I'm also ordering early so I have lots of time to straighten any kinks with MCO or anything way before good riding weather. Looking to order this will 200, its in my budget and I'm decently mechanically inclined to do upgrades. I looveeee how the Will 200 looks. I will keep looking at other bikes though but you really can't beat 1400 to my door and I'll do like 300-400 dollars in upgrades to it.

Sounds good, keep us updated, we like lots of PITCHERS round here!

And pictures too! lol I think you have pitchers of beer on your mind. :lmao: It is Friday. Not a bad idea.

Sticking with who you trust or who you've had luck with, in the CB world is huge. In all honesty, I don't think there's one of these "mega-box store warehouses" that ship a ton of this stuff hasn't had a slew of problems....or have flat vanished. Purchasing a CB has never been without its "click and pray".

I've had luck with Superior Power Sports, many have not. Swampy had no problems with Power Sports Max, many others have. It's always a dice roll.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Yep I think that's what it was! :lmao: PICTURES ! HA

If your riding style is more towards a smooth comfy on road ride as opposed to landing from 4 foot high jumps, the Will suspension will be a nice surprise.
Although the seat is not GREAT, it is IMO much better than the Honda CRF or the Yamaha XT250 seats.
Hope all works out well for you!

Thanks! I am looking at doing most, if not all normal street riding, no off road riding at all actually. I am placing my order by mid next month and I will let you guys know when I pull the trigger and if I was lucky enough for motobuys to still have them in stock by the time im ready to order. Now just looking for a good digital speedometer and tac cluster!