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david3921 08-29-2019 03:21 AM
The motor is now different, at least according to the website picture.
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250.php

But Culcune says the certification is the same. DH, you said it matches yours. Are you looking at the website above? That engine is not the same as what has been coming in the XF250.

2LZ 08-29-2019 03:48 PM
I hope these stick around. Best China bike I've owned. Q has been flawless since I got it in '09. Excellent quality.

wlfpck 08-29-2019 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dh (Post 317007)
Dusman thanks for the positive review on the videos!

Wlfpk, the Xf250 uses the same 249cc engine (GS250) as the Suzuki TU250x in carb'd form. The company that makes it claims to have some strong ties to Suzuki. Engine and trans parts are interchangeable. Plastics, tank, seat, etc might be interchangeable with DR stuff but I'm not really sure. There are a ton of sources for parts though, but lately SSR has improved their parts inventory and I'm getting parts in 5 business days from my local parts store/shop and I feel better supporting them.

I need to do another vid soon since I just added an Amazon pipe which sounds pretty cool and gave me a little bump in power I was able to set a new record of 83 mph last week which was sketchy! The Shinkos I have like to follow the ice grooves big time. I'm going to be hitting 25,000 miles in the next month or two at the rate I'm going.

Update: Just did a long overdue valve adjustment (7,000 miles yikes) and little to no adjustment needed. Still does 70 all day long and doesn't burn oil.

I would buy one again in a heartbeat assuming I can get the price under the 3 grand mark.
That's good to hear. What's your youtube? I started looking for a Carb'ed bike again and figured I'd get something that I can use for slight off-road usage.

What pipe did you get?

wlfpck 08-29-2019 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by david3921 (Post 317239)
The motor is now different, at least according to the website picture.
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250.php

But Culcune says the certification is the same. DH, you said it matches yours. Are you looking at the website above? That engine is not the same as what has been coming in the XF250.
Oh dang... :(

wlfpck 08-29-2019 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 316975)
The engine is based off the CB250. It has the OHC. Not sure what bike the plastics will swap with.
Have you looked at the Orion RXB-250L ? https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/
That actually looks pretty cool. They say it's a KTM styled bike. Does the KTM plastics and stuff swap over? Or Honda, kawasaki, suzuki?

Reason I ask is with the grom clones it was super easy to find replacement parts. Just had to buy grom plastics and what not. Stuff like seat, plastics, etc.

And what about this one. Seems like this one is CARB street legal.

https://www.orionpowersports.com/apo...embled-tested/

JerryHawk250 08-29-2019 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wlfpck (Post 317308)
That actually looks pretty cool. They say it's a KTM styled bike. Does the KTM plastics and stuff swap over? Or Honda, kawasaki, suzuki?

Reason I ask is with the grom clones it was super easy to find replacement parts. Just had to buy grom plastics and what not. Stuff like seat, plastics, etc.

And what about this one. Seems like this one is CARB street legal.

https://www.orionpowersports.com/apo...embled-tested/
That i'm not sure of but replacement parts and plastics can be bought from Orion Powersports.

JerryHawk250 08-29-2019 04:32 PM
The Apollo DB-36 RX250cc DELUXE is another nice bike too. Orion carries the part for it too.

wlfpck 08-29-2019 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 317312)
The Apollo DB-36 RX250cc DELUXE is another nice bike too. Orion carries the part for it too.
That's good to hear. Seems like Orion is a better dealer.

But let's say we you need parts asap. Do you know if these are clones of other bikes? Like say you ripped the seat open and you needed a new one... could you run to Honda and grab one for a CRF250? Or Kawasaki and grab one from a KLX250? Yamaha? Suzuki?

Just kind of curious as that's what a lot of people do with the Grom clones. Something breaks... honda dealership.

More importantly, this means the aftermarket parts like upgraded skid plates, upgraded shocks, upgraded forks, etc will all swap as well.

1cylinderwonder 08-30-2019 08:03 PM
Suggestione for carb and muffler
 
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Originally Posted by dh (Post 317227)
David it looks identical to mine and mine is a 249cc. The engine goes right up to the bottom of the tank and it doesn't look small in person.
dh,
On your XF250 bike, what brand and stock number of carb did you purchase to replace the stock carb, and what size jets did you buy to replace the jets in your replacement carb?
And what replacement muffler do you recommend to replace the stock muffler?
I hope you are the correct person I remember from earlier posts regarding the modifications to the XF250 bike and how to improve power and performance.
Thanks, :hi:
PCG

dh 08-31-2019 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by david3921 (Post 317239)
The motor is now different, at least according to the website picture.
http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/enduro/xf250.php

But Culcune says the certification is the same. DH, you said it matches yours. Are you looking at the website above? That engine is not the same as what has been coming in the XF250.


Here is a photo of my 2013 and the newest model on the SSR site. Looks identical to me. Maybe you were looking at their SR250 moto X? They also have a new 300 which looks pretty nice.

Culcune I'm glad to hear this is still coming from Pioneer. I have talked to Kronik recently, and he isn't a huge fan. He sold the first batch of XF 250's and had a few lemons; I think he got burnt out with the way SSR handled warranty/parts issues which made unhappy customers (including me at times). SSR has gotten much better from what my local shop/dealer keeps telling me, and parts are no problem. Either way, I still like Kronik Racing.

dh 08-31-2019 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 317417)
dh,
On your XF250 bike, what brand and stock number of carb did you purchase to replace the stock carb, and what size jets did you buy to replace the jets in your replacement carb?
And what replacement muffler do you recommend to replace the stock muffler?
I hope you are the correct person I remember from earlier posts regarding the modifications to the XF250 bike and how to improve power and performance.
Thanks, :hi:
PCG
The carb is a Teikei MV 30; different variations have been used on Zongshen, Yamaha (tw200), and other models so there is lots of info. Spudrider posted a ton of stuff as his Zong Sierra 200 used a nearly identical carb. This is a very easy carb to work on.


I haven't replaced my carb yet, but did some mods using a jet kit from Sigma. The kit included instructions and an assortment of jets/materials to do several mods to the carb. Replacement carbs are available on Amazon for under $50. Parts are available through Rockymountain ATV if you tell them you own a 2005 Tw200.


FYI, if interested there is an XF250 on Santa Barbara Craigslist for $1,500. It looks like it's seen a bit of abuse so I imagine the price will be very negotiable.

(https://www.amazon.com/XF-250-Pionee...gateway&sr=8-1)

dh 08-31-2019 12:48 AM
Wlfpk I just posted a vid of the pipe here: Motor and trans are interchangeable with Suzuki and the carb is share with early 2000's Yamaha TW200. At the bottom is a cool review some guy did on the supermoto version of this bike. He seemed to like it but knocked it for the high MSRP and made comparisons to used Japanese bikes for the $$. I agree, except I didn't pay anywhere near MSRP for my SSR.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fREA6gsMEt8

Here is the pipe:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCVvHthJ_SY&t=320s

david3921 08-31-2019 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dh (Post 317431)
Here is a photo of my 2013 and the newest model on the SSR site. Looks identical to me.
I think what I'm noticing is that there are subtle changes in the motor. The side cover is flatter in spots. The previous one was more rounded. The oil fill hole is moved slightly, also. It's still Suzuki based, which is great because you'd get a true 250 (249cc).

dh 08-31-2019 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by david3921 (Post 317441)
I think what I'm noticing is that there are subtle changes in the motor. The side cover is flatter in spots. The previous one was more rounded. The oil fill hole is moved slightly, also. It's still Suzuki based, which is great because you'd get a true 250 (249cc).
I see what you mean now. The side cover looks like the one on the late model tu250x. Might mean the bike is now compatible with oil coolers available for this motor.

2LZ 09-01-2019 02:02 PM
Not a very flattering video but typical from a Japanese bike rider. They have a tendency to get that "Harley mentality".


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