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BrokeAss 03-28-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DohcBikes (Post 355964)
As an All Balls distributor I will be working with my rep to put together some bearing kits for these bikes. Also will be doing a tapered bearing swap kit for the steering heads.

If you happen to know what fits a Magician 250 I'm interested and ready to buy.

Skyd 03-31-2021 07:10 PM

My MCO and Bill of Sale came today 6 days behind the bike, so not to shabby. I just fired off an e-mail to the town clerk with some info to see if there will be any hang ups. Also we have to schedule time to come in and register cause Rona.

I've got a bit of time anyway, shooting for mid April to have this all ready to ride.

idle_purr 04-03-2021 08:32 PM

Hey Skyd I was wondering if you could point me to a good earth magnet online? I was also wondering how you go about magnetizing, do you just stick the magnet inside the cone screen filter?

Skyd 04-04-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by idle_purr (Post 357280)
Hey Skyd I was wondering if you could point me to a good earth magnet online? I was also wondering how you go about magnetizing, do you just stick the magnet inside the cone screen filter?

So I was going to go this route and I wasn't sure how I was going to do it...I thought about drilling the inside of the plug and epoxying a neodymium magnet in there. However, i found some decent looking magnetic drain plugs on Amazon for $9. I'm going to give that a go first and see how I like it. M12X1.5 I believe is the size, I can find it in my orders and get a link if you're interested.

idle_purr 04-04-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyd (Post 357346)
So I was going to go this route and I wasn't sure how I was going to do it...I thought about drilling the inside of the plug and epoxying a neodymium magnet in there. However, i found some decent looking magnetic drain plugs on Amazon for $9. I'm going to give that a go first and see how I like it. M12X1.5 I believe is the size, I can find it in my orders and get a link if you're interested.

Yes for sure, let us know how it goes if and when you do it.

Skyd 04-18-2021 09:20 PM

What's up guys - I haven't updated this in a hot minute so thought I'd drop by. I've got my TT250 head gasket installed, the head is back on, I need to adjust my valves...just havent' gotten a chance yet. It's gonna be chilly and wet here for at least the next week to 10 days, AND I'm still trying to get my town clerk to respond to me.

I also pulled the rear shock out and took some measurements in case I want to upgrade I'll know what to look for without having to take it out. Greased up the top and bottom bolts, lock tite and reinstalled.

I jetted my pumper carb - starting at 110 main, 38 pilot, 2 turns out on idle mixture, needle clip at middle position. I'll adjust accordingly from there.

old biker 05-02-2021 07:50 AM

this is old biker,i sent you a personal message but im new to forum usage so i dont know if you received it.im in raymond,need to talk to you about registration and bike ergonomics.

Skyd 05-02-2021 12:50 PM

Hey Old biker I responded to your PM. Let me know if I can answer any questions.

Quick update as I haven't updated this thread in a hot minute. Charged the battery, have the front wheel on, fender is mounted, head gasket done, valve lash set. I need to extend teh wiring for the rear LED turn signals and I can't find my soldering iron so off to Harbor Freight I go.

Then I'm gonna change the oil, get this throttle cable mounted back up, set my chain slack and go over a few more things...then I think I'll start it.

Sprocket and Chain replacement will come soon after, waiting on my digital dash setup and my fat bars still.

Oh I got an inline fuel filter to add also.

old biker 05-02-2021 01:01 PM

skyd, just a heads up, i saw on motocheese when he was building tao tao tbr7 the rear rack looks like the bolt patern is the same as the hawk

Skyd 05-02-2021 10:11 PM

You know I thought that too, I'd ask him but he doesn't have it anymore...well i might ask him anyway. I got myself a piece of 1/4" aluminum and I think I'm gonna try to make up my own little rack, it was cheap so if it doesn't work out, no big deal.

Skyd 05-04-2021 08:58 AM

So I was pleasantly surprised last night. I installed LED turn signals at all 4 corners. I had ordered an LED flasher relay and a diode kit in anticipation of issues.


But I though, well let's just see what it does first. Turned the key, hit the blinker switch, lo and behold.....everything works fine. Dash lights work, blinkers blink at a normal rate and properly. I was surprised based on past experience and also things I've seen and read I though I would at the very least need the put in a new flasher relay.


So, perhaps the 2020 Hawk is plug n play for LED turn signals after all.


BTW - The turn signals I got were nothing special, paid like $8 a pair so I don't think there's a fancy circuit in them causing resistance or anything like that, I could be wrong though LED electronics aren't my forte' so to speak.

Megadan 05-04-2021 03:21 PM

My 2017 and 2018 both never needed a new relay either. At some point I think they just started installing cheap electronic relays that are not load dependent during assembly.

Topbench 05-08-2021 10:46 AM

I sure have been enjoying this thread. I have read it 2-3 times. I have been setting up my bike the last few days. I have relied on MegaDan and JerryHawk pro tips so much that I am starting to think I name the bike DanJer. Lol. Keep up the interesting information

Skyd 05-08-2021 08:03 PM

Well late last night I found a way to route my throttle cable that I'm happy with, and no binding. Mounted the tank back on, the plastic, the seat, set the chain slack and changed the oil and trued the front rim. I'll do the rear when I change the sprocket.

Tomorrow - we ride! Well, start anyway.

I did not remove the rear axle to grease it as I plan to do the sprocket and chain swap right off, like literally right off. I might go around the yard a bit and down the road and back but that's about it.

Skyd 05-09-2021 01:51 PM

Ok just did the first start on the bike....started right up for the most part. It didn't wanna be full choked, half choke was best and then after not long no choke. Turned the idel screw up a bit and let it run for 5 minutes. It's cooling off now and I'll do another heat cycle. I'm not anal about break ins honestly but we'll do a few cycles and some low speed variable throttle for a bit.

One thing I need to address so far is that if I get on the throttle quick, it dies. Guessing I might have gone too big with the Pilot.

Megadan 05-09-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyd (Post 359823)

One thing I need to address so far is that if I get on the throttle quick, it dies. Guessing I might have gone too big with the Pilot.

Possible it's too big, but not by much. I would look into the idle mixture, but do so after riding the bike around for a solid 5-10 minutes so that you know for sure the engine is fully up to temp. Idling for 5 minutes won't be enough.

I have a 38 pilot on my bike and I am less than 2 turns out.

Another suggestion. Leave the pumper cable end disconnected for now until you have the jets figured out. The accelerator pump can mask or exaggerate tuning issues.

Skyd 05-09-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 359832)
Possible it's too big, but not by much. I would look into the idle mixture, but do so after riding the bike around for a solid 5-10 minutes so that you know for sure the engine is fully up to temp. Idling for 5 minutes won't be enough.

I have a 38 pilot on my bike and I am less than 2 turns out.

Another suggestion. Leave the pumper cable end disconnected for now until you have the jets figured out. The accelerator pump can mask or exaggerate tuning issues.

The cable for the accelerator pump is disconnected :tup: I actually thought of that all on my own, LOL. Anyway, I'll give the mixture screw a try it didn't occur to me it could be causing the issue. I'll give that a go tomorrow night after work. I'm at 2.5 turns out. Thanks!!

Megadan 05-09-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyd (Post 359833)
The cable for the accelerator pump is disconnected :tup: I actually thought of that all on my own, LOL. Anyway, I'll give the mixture screw a try it didn't occur to me it could be causing the issue. I'll give that a go tomorrow night after work. Thanks!!

That makes you smarter than the average coconut for sure.

Do you have a way to turn the idle mixture while the bike is running? That is honestly the most annoying part of the whole process.

If your pumper carb came with an idle mixture screw that has a little knob that sticks out the bottom you can actually put a bit of fuel tubing on it so that you can turn it with your fingers. Just make sure to put a mark or 2 on it to help keep track of position.

Skyd 05-09-2021 08:43 PM

hmm, ya the screw sticks down but it's smooth with a flat head at the end but I may be able to get some small tubing or something on it.....great idea. Thanks!

Megadan 05-09-2021 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyd (Post 359837)
hmm, ya the screw sticks down but it's smooth with a flat head at the end but I may be able to get some small tubing or something on it.....great idea. Thanks!

Some knurling definitely helps, but if the tubing fits tight enough it actually isn't needed. If you really wanted to you could use a scribe or a fine chisel to create some indents/marks on the outside surface to help give the tubing something to grab.

old biker 05-11-2021 03:14 PM

yes I had to change flasher on my z750s to get the cheap chinese flashers to work

Skyd 05-14-2021 06:19 PM

Quick update on the carb - so I rode it a bit, let it idle a bit, rode it a bit more, for about 10 minutes....then grapped a flat head bit and started in on the idle mixture. So at a little past 3 turns out it starts to stumble pretty good, so I went back the other way but I got pretty close to all the way in, I couldn't turn it anymore but suspect it had another 1/2 turn to it, anyway it never stumbled. So that would suggest my pilot jet needs to go bigger right?

maybe my expectations are too high for the off idle, so what I might do it pull the carb and go back up to a 38 pilot (35 right now) and then see if I can get the idle screw centered better and then just ride it and see how she goes.

Also once the engine got hot the valvetrain seems pretty noisey to me and I used to ride a DRZ which are notoriously noisey so I'm wondered if I'm' a touch too loose on my valve lash also. Might be worth pulling the cover and double checking myself.

China Rider 27 05-14-2021 07:39 PM

Just for reference, my PZ30B uses a 40 pilot with the CAT removed and I ran that in otherwise stock form before. Does that PZ30B use a "cold start" or a Keihin pilot jet?

Skyd 05-16-2021 03:01 PM

It uses Keihin jets - I have a 35 in right now but actually think I need to go back up to the 38 and then adjust my mixture screw. It runs fine how it is, I actually went out for a shrot ride but I think it's a tad lean

Skyd 05-19-2021 08:49 AM

Well guys I've got 25 "units" on the bike now....I'm assuming they are KM because there's no way I went 25 miles but I dunno. Anyway, I need to make some adjustments but overall I'm impressed with what they can do with a $1500 bike.


Next up on the list is I'm gonna order an exhaust, and I'll be installing my digital dash within the next few days.


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