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TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 01:02 PM

Ahh ok WA, so basically the cords coming out of the female connector, that the engine plug plugs into?

ill take some pics and/or make a diagram.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 01:32 PM

Yeah they deffinitly arent the same going in as they are coming out. I think the Pink cable on my roketa plug is the white on the lifan engine.

Only The BLUE/WHITE cords match up, and the empty slot.

hope this is understandable.

Overlapping the two images, would be as if it were plugged in.

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/21/diagramfemale.png

katoranger 08-22-2012 02:25 PM

I believe one can remove the pins in those connectors and reinsert them into the proper location.

You need a small screwdriver to release the pin from the connector and then the wire pulls out.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger
I believe one can remove the pins in those connectors and reinsert them into the proper location.

You need a small screwdriver to release the pin from the connector and then the wire pulls out.

Alright, Once this is done, should i be good to go, no need to mess with the CDI?

This would be a logical cause of my " NO SPARK " issue right?

FastDoc 08-22-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger
I believe one can remove the pins in those connectors and reinsert them into the proper location.

You need a small screwdriver to release the pin from the connector and then the wire pulls out.

That is correct. It would be a clean easy way to change the wires.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 03:24 PM

Yeah, that is what i'll do, way easier and more forgiving than splicing, especially with the little room i have to work with it.

i'm assuming the WHITE and PINK are the same,seeing as they are the only two wires that are different colors. So it is in the correct position, along with the blue/white wire.

Once i have this setup, should i give the spark test another try?

FastDoc 08-22-2012 03:28 PM

Do you have an ohmmeter?

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 03:31 PM

I might, but i haven't seen it in years, my dad use to have one floating around, not sure where it is at the moment.

If i do find it, what would i do with it?

Is it completely necessary?

FastDoc 08-22-2012 03:37 PM

You can measure the impedence between pins of the CDI's and compare them. It is a good, although probably not necessary way, to determine where the differences are.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 03:45 PM

well, lets say i don't have one. Would i risk Blowing out my CDI, should i switch the CDI's out?

FastDoc 08-22-2012 03:54 PM

I don't think you can hurt it.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 04:07 PM

Okay, witch plug should i re-arange the wires on, The one coming from the donor engine, or the female one from my DB-06

I'm thinking i should arrange the female port just like the female port on the donor bike.

let me know what you guys think.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 04:29 PM

ok nevermind, i see the pins Kato mentioned, i changed the female plug, its all in order now, now to try it.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 04:33 PM

YES!!!! I HAVE SPARK!!!!!!!!

Now to attach the gas tank, and try to get it started!

YES!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

MICRider 08-22-2012 04:38 PM

Good stuff! You've got her now my friend, spark is the tricky one, the rest is easy! :) Well done 8)

FastDoc 08-22-2012 04:55 PM

AWESOME!

Make sure you check in and give us the good news before you go for a celebration ride!

katoranger 08-22-2012 04:59 PM

Waiting for the update.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 05:08 PM

HAHA!!! IT STARTS! rode it in first gear up to my drive way, from my shed, IT RUNS! hahaa! Im so happy! thank you guys sooooooo much!!!!!!!!

There is a small exaust leak coming from the header, i think one of the bolts is slightly bent, i can probobly fix it with some washers!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Started first kick!

the engine sounds really good too! MAN IM SO HAPPY!

THANK YOU GUYS!!! i have a bunch of pics to upload, but first im going to take it on a ride!

katoranger 08-22-2012 05:10 PM

Great news. Simply wiring issue.

Recommend getting a new copper gasket for the exhaust. Go down to Honda and ask for an xr200r gasket. It should fit.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 05:38 PM

Wooo yeah, 4th gear works great!!!!! HAHA! :lol:

My bro just got home from work, we're pumped!

yeah there is a small gap between the bottom bolt and the gasket. thats gotta be the cause of the air leak.

I'll hook you guys up with some videos and pics shortly here today.

Seriously guys, thanks for all the help, I would have been so lost, and can almost guarantee i wouldn't have figured it out, For almost everything, I knew nothing, and now i know so much! Thanks to all those who helped!!!! you know who you are!!!! YES :!: :!: :!:

FastDoc 08-22-2012 06:02 PM

We are happy to help. :D

With that said you did A LOT of work with great enthusiasm and apparant skill. You learned a lot of knowledge that will be with you the rest of your life and come in handy countless times in the future. Well done! :D

Wild_Alaskan 08-22-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGammaGhost
YES!!!! I HAVE SPARK!!!!!!!!

Now to attach the gas tank, and try to get it started!

YES!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

Great news! the possible mis matching was why i was so interested in the engine plug in :wink: Have fun on your nice refreshed bike!

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 07:06 PM

Here's some pics! Going to fix that exhaust leak, replace my bald tires, and get new rear brake pads (spare bike ones dont fit) and my bike is minted!

Just went on a 14 mile ride with my bro, And man, did it feel good 8)

Before
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3118/dsc00147ct.jpg
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/5548/dsc00150zm.jpg
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5213/dsc00173fx.jpg

After
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6238/dsc00213kj.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3954/dsc00214ls.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4495/dsc00216wax.jpg
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3232/dsc00218ts.jpg
Me and my bro's bike, same engines!
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6042/dsc00211gi.jpg

MICRider 08-22-2012 07:46 PM

Looks great, I'm so glad you got it sorted out :D. I'm sure it will serve you well for a long time to come. Weld's favorite engines as well, the pushrod hondoids, excellent engines :). Ride safe and enjoy, after all that work you deserve it! 8)

Weldangrind 08-22-2012 08:36 PM

Yaaayyyy!!!!!!! It runs! :D

Yep, my all-time favourite engine. After you come back to Earth, we should guide you in adjusting the valves. It's super easy, and it might even free up some power.

TheGammaGhost 08-22-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Yaaayyyy!!!!!!! It runs! :D

Yep, my all-time favourite engine. After you come back to Earth, we should guide you in adjusting the valves. It's super easy, and it might even free up some power.

For sure, sounds like fun. I'll ask about it sometime in the near future probably. I honestly, had A LOT of fun learning all of this awesome information, even given the circumstances. Definitively ready and willing to learn more.

Got my bike to hit 64MPH just a bit ago, with ease, it felt like, probably could have went faster, but our turn came up.

*added all pics to page #1

This rules. :lol: :)

SpudRider 08-23-2012 02:25 AM

Congratulations, Gamma! :D Your persistence paid off. ;)

With your engine transplant you now have either a Lifaneta, or a Rockan motorcycle. :lol:

Spud :)


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