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The position of the new mounting holes will determine the amount of lowering. But I am having a difficult time deciding exactly what the calculation is:
The lower mount is only about 3.5 inches behind the swingarm pivot. The distance to the rear axel from pivot is ~22". But it isn't a simple fixed mounting position to the shock. The mount articulates slightly due to the triangular mounting bracket with dogbone linkage. The lowering will be enhanced by the effect of that linkage (either more, or less than a simple fixed mounting position. Most lowering kits involve replacing the doglegs with slightly longer doglegs, which articulate the triangle downward/backward, effectively lengthening the distance between the lower and upper mounting positions. Well, we will see. I think a full 1" difference in lower mounting position might be a drastic change, so I will go less than 1". But I want the lower shock mount to be secure and strong, so I don't want the new holes too close to the OEM holes. 3/4" might be about as close as I can make the new holes. |
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It worked. It is an aluminum shock body, so it was EASY to drill. Make sure you drill straight. 10mm is perfect, works great.
Attachment 28158 Attachment 28159 Attachment 28160 I made the new holes 1" from the OEM mounting so dropped from 460mm to 435mm effective shock length. Me and my son estimated 4.8" for a full inch if it is linear. But we weren't sure if the linkage would make it less. Well, this bike will be EASY to throw a leg over now! The kickstand is a bit long now but works on level ground! I'd like to TIGHTEN the preload now. It may need it. My guess is it is about a ~3" drop. It's good! And it really worked as planned :yay: If you want to do this, but just want a 2.5 inch drop, aim for a ~3/4" distance to the new holes, or maybe just under 3/4". The chain got tighter, so I moved the rear axel forward a bit. I have more work to do before I put it all back together. I am working on the carb and some wiring rerouting. I think I need to tighten the rear shock preload if I want to keep this height. It will be easy enough to park it with the kickstand in a hole or downhill until I tighten up the rear shock preload. That might make it work better. FYI, I did this on this 2022 1/2 6speed Temp X, which is also geared up with 39T rear sprocket from the OEM 49T sprocket. It still has the OEM 13T front sprocket. But I think I'll get a 42T or 44T rear sprocket. I just don't drive that fast, stick to two lanes anyway. This might be a good setup for a supermotard conversion too :tup: |
KKE has this shock for $159 plus shipping if you would like to pick up a spare and give this a try. It is in stock (Los Angeles area). PSM does NOT have it in stock, but they would probably charge the same.
www.kkeracing.com sales03@kkeracing.com It is MA40B03 but give them the following info to be certain: -460mm distance from top to bottom mounting positions (center to center of mounting holes) -10mm bolts top and bottom (mounting holes) -22mm wide upper mount bushing -350lbs/inch spring -rebound adjustment is at the base of the cylinder on the lower mount -compression adjustment is on the top of the ballonet You can take the photos in this thread if they want them (he asked me for pics). If you have the Templar M, check these measurements against your shock. PSM sez it they are not interchangeable, but they may not really know. You need room for the ballonet which is angled slightly back when mounted. |
I need to lower my grandson’s Xpro Sail 150. It came with a 290mm shock. Couldn’t I just install a shorter shock? My question though. What length shock should I get to lower the bike about 3”?
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The length seems right. If the shock was still in one piece (spring in place) and that ~18.25 inches is from center to center (mounting holes), that is 463mm.
Questions: -Are those 10mm bolt holes? -What is the width of the upper bushing (22mm on the KKE adjustable shock) ? By width, I mean the length of the bushing, width when mounted. That is the critical measurement. -What is the width between the two legs of the lower mounting fork? It is 20mm on the KKE shock (to fit when mounted to the linkage triangle). The spring isn't too wide, no problem there. The upper mount doesn't move significantly and sufficient clearance to mount. If those dimensions are OK. the ONLY real issue is whether there is room for the ballonet. It is not perpendicular to the upper shock mount, but rather, angles back slightly. I am ordering a new one, so I can send you this one. But I wouldn't recommend buying it from me, because even if it fits, you should make it a ~5/8" distance to the new mounting hole, not 1 inch. And it isn't worth sending just for fitment test. |
Correction- KKE racing does not have the shock in stock in CA/North America. The shipping quote was $80. But $159 is an expected price for the adjustable shock itself. I think I will wait!
UPDATE: I looked into alternatives. This KKE adjustable is actually a nice deal. Even with shipping. I may just order one. UPDATE: OK, this is my 2022 and a 1/2 Templar X thread (please don't overload it with stuff you should put in YOUR thread). I am NOT buying another shock. I Like the lowering I got with my existing shock. It works GREAT. Increasing the preload by 350-400lbs completely compensated for the lowering. It works great in the dirt, just doesn't have the extreme rear shock travel anymore. But I don't leap 25' jumps anyway;) |
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Here is another post in my 2022 and a half Temp X thread. This one is the installation of a big knurled knob idle adjuster.
I posted it elsewhere, and the threads and dimensions were accurate. It is post #5 in this thread: https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=32024 OK, they cost under $3 so I bought a couple of them to keep as a spare. In fact, I bought an red one after that (maybe closer to matching my orange 5 speed) :yay: Attachment 28303 Yup, the dimensions and threads were perfect. BUT, I reused the OEM spring which was lighter and wider. I also used a washer that came with the knob. Oh, I had to start the bike and test it. TORTURE. It is 30 degrees out there. Sigh! Attachment 28304 |
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But the good news is that it is a simple fixed mounting position, so a shorter shock should work. Check out this 10.25" shock from Amazon ($30). If the mounting posts have compatible sized holes, it should work perfectly. You can dial up to 4 stiffer spring preload settings as well. 30mm shorter Attachment 28306 google this description to find it on Amazon RUTU 10.25" 260mm Rear Shock, Mono Shock, Universal Pit Bike Shock Replacement for SDG SSR Pitster Lifan 110cc 125cc 140cc 200cc 250cc Pit Dirt Bike 400LBS - Black How much will this lower the bike? Well, ask a mathematician. I am sure it is a Trigonometry problem since the swingarm makes a circle when it pivots. *If you disconnect the shock and do manual measurements with the bike on a bike stand, you can estimate the effect of a 30mm change. |
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I did already describe sealing up the "manifold" up against the head with high temp RTV (single port intake plenum ?? ) :hmm:
Anyway, I was wondering about the OEM fuel filter. Is it flowing freely? So I got an inexpensive high flow 1/4" inline filter (under $4 from auto parts store). It is small and was an easy install. Attachment 28484 I also worked on the choke linkage, which was sticky. After assembling it all back together, put the gas tank back on, added a gallon of premium (I use no ethanol high octane during break-in), and started it. It needed some choke, but settled into a nice idle-elevated with my new easy big knob slide height screw! After a few revs, I dropped the slide a bit and ran it for a minute to warm up the engine (COLD OUT). Then took a ride. Running great and when I returned a few minutes later, I parked it and dropped the idle to ~1500rpm. Steady and stable, no stall!!! I think a combination of leaky intake manifold seal and slow flow filter might have been causing the unstable idle and stalling. FIXED!:clap: |
Hey Thumper, could we see some picks of the bike now that it is lowered? Did you also raise the fork tubes up in the triple clamps? If so, how much? From other pictures I've seen, it doesn't look like they can be raised much before hitting the handlebar.
I've been lurking about gathering info but have yet to place a order for a Templar X. Am concerned about the seat height/swinging my leg over the seat (I'm 5'6" with a 29" inseam). |
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About 3" lower. It sags a couple inches when I sit on it. I did tension the preload on the rear shock to compensate and prevent it from compressing too far now that it is closer to the fender.
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