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just a rider 07-20-2015 10:20 AM

Apollo orion 36-rx 250cc
 
Hey guys.
I'm new to the forum, so hello to everyone here.

Does anyone know anything about the given bike?
It's like 2-3 weeks old by now, it has some eletrical problems but that's not the case.

I would like to get rid of the limiters, so far we have an idea it has 3 limiters.
1 in exhaust, 1 in air-intake, 1 in carburetor. Possible the rev limiter is in the CDI (the brain I guess).

Any tips about the bike or anything? Since the bike is really dead to me, as in it doesn't really go into revs, impossible to wheelie with it and so on. It's a nice bike and I believe it'll ride just fine, only needs some changes.

With best regards,
Me
:thanks:

Weldangrind 07-20-2015 11:48 AM

Welcome!

For starters, please show us a pic of the bike. It's tough to get a sense of it from your avatar.

just a rider 07-20-2015 12:27 PM

images then
http://imgur.com/dTkCNz6,HTMZV5h,mf8cwFM#0
i hope that helps

just a rider 07-20-2015 12:29 PM

also, this :)
http://imgur.com/tbgMers

Quote:

Originally Posted by just a rider (Post 189055)
images then
http://imgur.com/dTkCNz6,HTMZV5h,mf8cwFM#0
i hope that helps


Weldangrind 07-20-2015 12:41 PM

I can't seem to get the image to display in a reasonable size. perhaps someone smarter than me can assist.

Weldangrind 07-20-2015 12:43 PM

That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?

just a rider 07-20-2015 12:52 PM

I know little to nothing about the bikes, so where could I fine the CDI?
It still has a guarantee, so should I open the bike up and remove the CDI? 'Cause I'm forced to drop it to a guarantee service anyways in 1-2 weeks, maybe i'll wait and do it after that. Since the electronical failures, some very random engine kills, battery is done for, only starts with a kick-starter, which is fine by me tho.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189060)
That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?


just a rider 07-20-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189060)
That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?

and yeah, it's a water-cooled engine

Weldangrind 07-20-2015 12:59 PM

I know it is water cooled; what I meant is that it looks like a water-cooled OHC engine. Most of the water cooled China bikes I've seen have been pushrod motors (at least the Honda clones).

When you say it has a guarantee, do you mean there is warranty coverage on this bike?

just a rider 07-20-2015 01:00 PM

Found some papers
Engine Manufacturer: Zhejiang Apollo Motorcycle Manufacturer Co.,Ltd
Engine type as marked on the engine : APL170MM
Cylinder Cap. : 249cc
Which is worrying me is, that it's 250cc and has 13kw/7.5k rpm, is it normal?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189060)
That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?


just a rider 07-20-2015 01:01 PM

Yes, that's right, warranty :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189067)
I know it is water cooled; what I meant is that it looks like a water-cooled OHC engine. Most of the water cooled China bikes I've seen have been pushrod motors (at least the Honda clones).

When you say it has a guarantee, do you mean there is warranty coverage on this bike?


Adjuster 07-20-2015 01:02 PM

If you open his image links then click on the pictures they open up very full size. 3 pictures total. Nice looking bike.


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Weldangrind 07-20-2015 01:02 PM

Yes, that translates to about 17hp. Sounds about right.

You might free up another hp or two with some air filter and muffler upgrades.

just a rider 07-20-2015 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adjuster (Post 189071)
If you open his image links then click on the pictures they open up very full size. 3 pictures total. Nice looking bike.


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:)

Weldangrind 07-20-2015 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adjuster (Post 189071)
If you open his image links then click on the pictures they open up very full size. 3 pictures total. Nice looking bike.

I did that. I'm trying to post the pics in this thread, but they're huge.

Weldangrind 07-20-2015 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just a rider (Post 189070)
Yes, that's right, warranty :)

I recommend that you take it in, and request a new battery for starters. If the problems don't go away, also request a new CDI. Ask them to show you how to install it.

Adjuster 07-20-2015 01:14 PM

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http://i58.tinypic.com/2vmvfhf.jpg




http://i58.tinypic.com/almeye.jpg




http://i57.tinypic.com/xpyqgw.jpg



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SpudRider 07-21-2015 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189075)
I recommend that you take it in, and request a new battery for starters. If the problems don't go away, also request a new CDI. Ask them to show you how to install it.

I agree with Weld on all points. ;)

P.S. That is a good looking motorcycle. :tup:

just a rider 07-21-2015 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 189111)
I agree with Weld on all points. ;)

P.S. That is a good looking motorcycle. :tup:

^Thanks!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189075)
I recommend that you take it in, and request a new battery for starters. If the problems don't go away, also request a new CDI. Ask them to show you how to install it.

^Alright I'll do that
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189074)
I did that. I'm trying to post the pics in this thread, but they're huge.

^Thanks for posting them
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189072)
Yes, that translates to about 17hp. Sounds about right.

You might free up another hp or two with some air filter and muffler upgrades.

^Thanks for the tip, it'll be my next mission after the warranty service.



Thanks a lot guys, once I'm done with these, I'll hit you all back on how it went.
:thanks:

Weldangrind 07-21-2015 10:56 AM

Adjuster, how did you get the pics to be a reasonable size?

Adjuster 07-21-2015 11:36 AM

This is the website I use. The pics are never stored on your computer so no wasted space. It is perfect for pulling pics from the web when you want to post them into a forum like this one.

http://tinypic.com/



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Adjuster 07-21-2015 11:45 AM

No account needed. But if you want to open an account you can and your photos will be stored just like PhotoBucket etc. I suggest no account as I just use this to post quick photos in forums. I do not use it for storage.

Save the pic to your desktop. Any pic from web, camera etc doesn't matter.

Use the 'choose file' and locate the pic you want to insert in the forum.

You can use the 'default' pic size or make it larger or smaller your choice.

Hit the upload button.

Sometimes you will be asked a small security question or asked to type in a phrase or watch a small video just to verify your not a spammer.

For forums you want the image code. Copy the 'IMG' code and paste it in your forum thread and your done.

It sounds quite complicated but after you do it once it is very simple.

http://i60.tinypic.com/nqoc2s.jpg


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SpudRider 07-21-2015 01:10 PM

Thanks for posting the good tip. :tup:

I usually download the desired image, and resize it in MS Paint. However, TinyPic makes the job quicker and easier. :)

Weldangrind 07-22-2015 11:07 AM

I was simply trying to find a way to link a reasonable size pic from the hosting site that Just a Rider was using. Thanks for the tips.

SpudRider 07-22-2015 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 189185)
I was simply trying to find a way to link a reasonable size pic from the hosting site that Just a Rider was using. Thanks for the tips.

If the image is stored in large size, I don't know of another way for someone else to reduce the image, and post it, other than the two methods just described. ;) Some website software will automatically reduce the image size of all photographs, but our software doesn't do it. :shrug:

KirkN 07-22-2015 03:33 PM

Nice looking machine. Any idea what the fuel tank capacity is?

My Baja X250 looks very similar, chassis-wise. That is, it has the perimeter-style frame rather than a single backbone style.

My fuel tank is only 0.8 gallons, and I'd really like to find something larger that fits my perimeter frame.

Kirk

just a rider 07-23-2015 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirkN (Post 189202)
Nice looking machine. Any idea what the fuel tank capacity is?

My Baja X250 looks very similar, chassis-wise. That is, it has the perimeter-style frame rather than a single backbone style.

My fuel tank is only 0.8 gallons, and I'd really like to find something larger that fits my perimeter frame.

Kirk

Thanks! The fuel tank capacity is around 1.7 gallons on my bike.


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