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BitcoinDood 05-14-2018 03:41 PM

New CSC TT250 Any Suggestions for Panniers & Luggage racks.
 
I ordered a new TT 250 last week and it should be arriving by the weekend. I'm really excited and I've already began researching how to outfit the bike with Panniers & luggage racks. So far I'll probably go with the CSC luggage rack that can be ordered from their website. I'm a bit stuck on a pannier system though.



Anyone have any suggestions on ways to outfit the tt250 with Panniers? Has anyone modified the RX3 panniers to work on the TT250? I'm not adverse to building the rack myself. Would prefer an inexpensive bolt on solution though. Would also like to add a Rotopax fuel can system to it.



I'm planning on riding the TT250 through parts of Moab Ut & Colorado and need to load up on fuel and camping gear. Any suggestions or links to Pannier rack designs would be appreciated.



Thanks.

Weldangrind 05-15-2018 11:14 AM

These aren't a pre-made deal, but they're much like Pelican cases: https://www.harborfreight.com/3800-w...-in-63927.html The price is right and they're waterproof.

GlennR 05-15-2018 03:40 PM

I bought a set of bags that were sold for use on a horse. It's called Hamilton Versa-Pack. I haven't mounted them yet, so can't say if I like them. I don't have a rack, so I need to figure something out. Paid $38 on ebay, including shipping.

Weldangrind 05-16-2018 11:16 AM

Got a link?

BitcoinDood 05-16-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 280076)
These aren't a pre-made deal, but they're much like Pelican cases: https://www.harborfreight.com/3800-w...-in-63927.html The price is right and they're waterproof.


I love Harbor Freight. I like this solution too. I'm thinking I'll have to make my own racks, so making a couple modifications to the those boxes might be the perfect low budget plan. Any suggestions on building the racks, or know of any pre-made racks that might fit the TT250?

BitcoinDood 05-16-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennR (Post 280096)
I bought a set of bags that were sold for use on a horse. It's called Hamilton Versa-Pack. I haven't mounted them yet, so can't say if I like them. I don't have a rack, so I need to figure something out. Paid $38 on ebay, including shipping.


Great idea. I'm a bit conflicted about whether I want to go with soft or hard luggage. I'm towards hard, but price & functionality will be the deciding factor. If I go soft, this could be a great solution. I'll definitely look into that. Thanks.

Weldangrind 05-16-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BitcoinDood (Post 280176)
I love Harbor Freight. I like this solution too. I'm thinking I'll have to make my own racks, so making a couple modifications to the those boxes might be the perfect low budget plan. Any suggestions on building the racks, or know of any pre-made racks that might fit the TT250?

I'm not aware of pre-made racks (although they may exist). I'd get out the welder and make some.

MNrider 05-16-2018 01:29 PM

Order the CSC rack
 
I ordered the CSC rack for the TT250 when I ordered mine. Came installed.
I purchased the "Pelican" case from Harbor Freight. In about 10 you have a water proof lockable trunk.

GlennR 05-16-2018 09:38 PM

Here's a pic from an Amazon page.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg

$36.30 I think the color is brown, but it looks sort'a purple on my screen. Mine is a dark green.

They will separate and can be used as 2 individual backpacks. They are quite large.

I think they're a good deal for the price but of course, they aren't like the $300-400 fancy ones.

I think they are available in brown, green, blue, and maybe a bright safety orange.

BitcoinDood 05-18-2018 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GlennR (Post 280215)
Here's a pic from an Amazon page.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg

$36.30 I think the color is brown, but it looks sort'a purple on my screen. Mine is a dark green.

They will separate and can be used as 2 individual backpacks. They are quite large.

I think they're a good deal for the price but of course, they aren't like the $300-400 fancy ones.

I think they are available in brown, green, blue, and maybe a bright safety orange.

Those look great! I'll definitely check them out. I'm taking a one month cross country trip, almost 12,000 miles round trip. Think they'll hold up?

BitcoinDood 05-18-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 280179)
I'm not aware of pre-made racks (although they may exist). I'd get out the welder and make some.


I'm thinking about ordering a welder from Harbor Freight now just for this purpose. Haven't welded since high school, but think with a few practice runs, I can make it work.

timcosby 05-18-2018 10:34 PM

if you search my pics you will see how i did my panniers.

BitcoinDood 05-18-2018 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNrider (Post 280185)
I ordered the CSC rack for the TT250 when I ordered mine. Came installed.
I purchased the "Pelican" case from Harbor Freight. In about 10 you have a water proof lockable trunk.


I'm thinking about doing this too. I plan on ordering the rack, then the Harbor Frieght case then modding it to install the Rotopax fuel & water system on top of the case. Also saddle bags and a duffle bag strapped to the backseat for long distance adventures.

ben2go 05-19-2018 02:34 PM

Is the rear frame of the TT strong enough for real panniers and racks?


There is the frameless U shaped bags that are offered by GL and Wolfman. They sit on the rear seat and strap down to the passenger pegs or there abouts.
http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/...coyote-rolltop


https://wolfmanluggage.com/collectio...-plus-rear-bag


Not my pic. Stolen from duckduckgoimages.
https://thumpertalk.com/uploads/mont...1396628108.jpg

ChondaChondaChonda 05-19-2018 03:01 PM

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I run the Giant Loop on the back. They hold quite a bit.

For some extended camping overnighters I ordered these from ebay and have been pleasantly surprised for the price ($15):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-A...72.m2749.l2649

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BitcoinDood 05-21-2018 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ben2go (Post 280485)
Is the rear frame of the TT strong enough for real panniers and racks?


There is the frameless U shaped bags that are offered by GL and Wolfman. They sit on the rear seat and strap down to the passenger pegs or there abouts.
http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/...coyote-rolltop


https://wolfmanluggage.com/collectio...-plus-rear-bag


Not my pic. Stolen from duckduckgoimages.
https://thumpertalk.com/uploads/mont...1396628108.jpg


I've actually got a similar bag. I'm going to try and mount it up soon and see how it fits.

Weldangrind 05-22-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BitcoinDood (Post 280429)
I'm thinking about ordering a welder from Harbor Freight now just for this purpose. Haven't welded since high school, but think with a few practice runs, I can make it work.

I heartily encourage a welder with infinite voltage control and MIG process. I haven't tried the new Vulcan welder from HF, but it's nearly twice the money as this:
https://www.eastwood.com/mig-welder-...5a-output.html
I've used the Eastwood 135 a few times and found it to be a capable little machine. Keep the wire size to 0.025" and use 75/25 Argo/CO2 gas; you'll be pleased with the results. Check online for a coupon.

BitcoinDood 05-27-2018 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChondaChondaChonda (Post 280489)
I run the Giant Loop on the back. They hold quite a bit.

For some extended camping overnighters I ordered these from ebay and have been pleasantly surprised for the price ($15):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-A...72.m2749.l2649

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Thanks, those look pretty cool. Like the price too. I'm going to have to look into those.

mtiberio 06-26-2020 06:28 AM

when I get off my ass I'm going to mount a tool tube where the stock tool box is. Whether or not I put a fuel bottle or tools in it depends on my mission. For bags, for a bike this small and underpowered, I do not like putting soft bags on both sides. The Muffler makes the right side bag stick out too far. Once I finish my tool tube install, I'll work on installing a soft bag on the left side only. That plus a magneic tank bag and the stock luggage rack is plenty for me.

Goob 06-26-2020 11:32 PM

Here is the rack I made..I use Nelson-Rigg soft panniers
 
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Originally Posted by BitcoinDood (Post 280018)
I ordered a new TT 250 last week and it should be arriving by the weekend. I'm really excited and I've already began researching how to outfit the bike with Panniers & luggage racks. So far I'll probably go with the CSC luggage rack that can be ordered from their website. I'm a bit stuck on a pannier system though.



Anyone have any suggestions on ways to outfit the tt250 with Panniers? Has anyone modified the RX3 panniers to work on the TT250? I'm not adverse to building the rack myself. Would prefer an inexpensive bolt on solution though. Would also like to add a Rotopax fuel can system to it.



I'm planning on riding the TT250 through parts of Moab Ut & Colorado and need to load up on fuel and camping gear. Any suggestions or links to Pannier rack designs would be appreciated.



Thanks.

Here is the rack I made..I use Nelson-Rigg soft panniers (27.5 Liters each). I used 3/4" EMT and specialty connectors and shrink tube from Makerpipe.com Somewhere in a Chinarider thread I have the measurements and a description of the mounting connections to the frame and passenger foot-peg (that was deleted).

Both sides are identical, but the mounting connections on the right are about 1" longer. After these photos were taken I had to move the exhaust out 3/4" so my 120/90 rear tire would clear the muffler ...so the rack had to move out too.

I am street only, as you can tell by the tires. If I were to use this rack for off-road, then I will drill and cotter-pin the connectors; as they are technically friction fit. However, in 700 miles of pot-holey Denver streets the rack is still completely tight. The shrink-tube provides quite a bit of sticky grip when you tighten down the connectors all the way.

The last photo is a grocery run with the panniers fully un-folded for maximum capacity. I had 50 lbs of groceries...in what I figure was about 40 Liters per side.

The nice thing about this set-up is that the rack doesn't take vertical load, because the panniers have straps that connect them under the seat. So, they are there to hold the panniers in place and keep them from sagging into toward the wheel at the bottom...like soft panniers always do.

Note that the EMT LB connectors on the rear crossover pipe were temporary to get the project done. I replaced with a couple of makerpipe connectors and endcaps later to clean things up. I just hadn't ordered enough connectors for how the design unfolded.

As far as the CSC tail rack...I would also get one if I was off-roading. It is a perfect place to put a Rotopax. I found that very much weight up high is not very good. One of my early tries at hauling stuff was putting a folding milk crate back there...the first turn fully loaded nearly yanked me over! That is why I changed out to panniers....to keep the load low. If you do want to carry even more though...a dry bag will strap right on over the top of the panniers.

Cost was about $90 for the rack and $160+shipping for the panniers.

Goob 06-27-2020 12:05 AM

If you can weld...I used this rack as the model for mine
 
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If you can weld...I used this rack as the model for mine...that I made up with makerpipe (since I can't weld). This rack is on a DR650 that I found a photo of on-line.

You could still use the same mounting points I did: rear foot-peg thread, hole in frame where the rear side plastic pin goes in (cutting off part of the plastic to expose it and eliminating the pin), and the rear turn signal mounting point on the grab-rail.


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