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SeerAtlas 07-30-2016 03:03 PM

Huh? Royal Enfield? Really?
 
Anyone seen this?
http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycl...4JS61&fc=50,50

http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycl...pgJ49&fc=50,50

simonjester 07-30-2016 03:28 PM

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2016/0...-specs-photos/

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess:
  1. Not available in the USA
  2. Price exceeds $5k

SeerAtlas 07-30-2016 03:46 PM

betcha a dollar they come in, 30 inch saddle height? 8.6 inch travel both ends. 401cc. 75mph all day? 409lbs still 40 lbs less than my racked klr, 21 front 17 rear? i am LIKING this AND, :) I just happen to know an an hereditary indian princess;) LOL. Lets see if I can get one imported :) Zong better get their 400-450 in gear if RE is looking for the world market...

simonjester 07-30-2016 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeerAtlas (Post 226681)
betcha a dollar they come in, 30 inch saddle height? 8.6 inch travel both ends. 401cc. 75mph all day? 409lbs still 40 lbs less than my racked klr, 21 front 17 rear? i am LIKING this AND, :) I just happen to know an an hereditary indian princess;) LOL. Lets see if I can get one imported :) Zong better get their 400-450 in gear if RE is looking for the world market...

They do look really nice and that is cool, but I wonder how much they cost? :hmm:

hertz9753 07-30-2016 06:47 PM

Didn't they ride those in WWII? I'll stick to Jawa. :lol:

SeerAtlas 07-30-2016 07:21 PM

need to read the articles. first- made in all new plant/all new tech- bike designed by ducati guy.
2nd. wouldnt b showing/testing round milwaukee if not coming to us. 3rd-price not released but reporter informed by re exec would b 4 to 5k range. you can bet it will be as high as they can get but market is used klr crowd. 30" saddle makes it a no brainer. klr's too damned tall for a lot of peeps.engine design is clean sheet according to article. have to see about that. other thing is they want to go up against chinese mfg's for piece of world market. we shall see but so far so good..

1cylinderwonder 07-30-2016 07:49 PM

I'm on the waiting list.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simonjester (Post 226679)
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2016/0...-specs-photos/

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess:
  1. Not available in the USA
  2. Price exceeds $5k

I contacted Royal Enfield in India requesting information and asked if it will be coming to the USA. I was informed that the selling price will be between 4 to 5 thousand USA dollars. And R.E. Is establishing an entry port in Texas where all the Enfield bikes will be assembled and fine tuned by certified technicians before heading to US dealers so there will be no half-assed assembly. The carbs will all be replaced with fuel injection to meet USA air quality standards. They are currently being road tested in the Detroit area and hopefully will be appearing at the International Motorcycle Shows around the world this year.
I requested to be placed on the waiting list for gaining information for when the Himalaya bikes will become available for sale in the USA.
This is more my style and size of bike. I'll be an early purchaser/owner! :yay:

Bruce's 07-30-2016 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hertz9753 (Post 226700)
Didn't they ride those in WWII? I'll stick to Jawa. :lol:

I need to know more about your Jawa ! .......I was just searching for a CZ not 10 minutes ago !

rjmorel 07-30-2016 09:18 PM

me want one, how many bikes do you know that come with a BBQ rack :crazy:on the swing arm as standard equip???? Or even offered as an accessary????? My style of BBQ, :thanks: rj

hertz9753 07-30-2016 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce's (Post 226706)
I need to know more about your Jawa ! .......I was just searching for a CZ not 10 minutes ago !

I don't have one, I'm just another guy that would like to have one but can't afford it.

simonjester 07-31-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 226704)
I contacted Royal Enfield in India requesting information and asked if it will be coming to the USA. I was informed that the selling price will be between 4 to 5 thousand USA dollars. And R.E. Is establishing an entry port in Texas where all the Enfield bikes will be assembled and fine tuned by certified technicians before heading to US dealers so there will be no half-assed assembly. The carbs will all be replaced with fuel injection to meet USA air quality standards. They are currently being road tested in the Detroit area and hopefully will be appearing at the International Motorcycle Shows around the world this year.
I requested to be placed on the waiting list for gaining information for when the Himalaya bikes will become available for sale in the USA.
This is more my style and size of bike. I'll be an early purchaser/owner! :yay:

I hope it happens. I might be interested if the price is right.

BlackBike 07-31-2016 08:40 PM

24 hp at 400lbs? Not so much :hmm: Must be the cool factor, does look neat.

SeerAtlas 07-31-2016 08:58 PM

Black, on youtube are a bunch of RE vids of their bike trips up into the himalayas . Speed is not an issue, being able to grunt torque the rig through really rough terrain at low speed IS, sooo the engine is reportedly designed and built with that goal in mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-3xPJ1kGU

BlackBike 07-31-2016 10:55 PM

Seer.. I see, and have heard of the infamous tank like qualities of the R.E.. Personally I can't see the benefits of a 400lb bike on off road terrain. Seems more of a liability to haul and handle all that mass on x terrain. :shrug:


I am a newb and haven't have some of the experience. I realize a lot can be said for "soaking up the bumps"

1cylinderwonder 08-01-2016 12:29 AM

What about the RX-3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 226788)
24 hp at 400lbs? Not so much :hmm: Must be the cool factor, does look neat.

Doesn't the RX-3 weigh about 380 pounds?
What is it's horsepower rating?
So does the Himalaya have more or less pounds per horsepower? :hmm:

SeerAtlas 08-01-2016 01:05 AM

in one of the review youtubes, a guy compares it to the rx3 english version (honley or something) decides there's no issue the re is much better. also, there is a factory documentary on the development of the himalayan, the engine's innards look Massive!
I am liking this thing more and more . one vid shows a guy trying tomuscle one around in the dirt/rock at very high altitude lol he can hardly stand up himself, but he picks one up.:)
you are right, tho, black 400 is a lot off road, but not for an adv bike. even the small beemers are much more and this bike is built STRONG.

BlackBike 08-01-2016 01:45 AM

ĹENGINE: NC250
MAXIMUM POWER: 24.8 hp
MAXIMUM TORQUE: 16.6 ft. lbs
PISTON SWEPT VOLUME: 250cc
LENGTH/WIDTH/HEIGHT: 83.8" x 34.2" x 49.6".
WHEELBASE: 55.1".
FUEL CAPACITY: 4.2 Gallons.
WEIGHT: 385 lbs.
MAXIMUM LOAD: 330 lbs.
MAXIMUM SPEED: 84 mph.
COMPRESSION RATIO: 11.5:1


rx3 specs above

So the advantage must lie in the torque produced from the 383cc (something) motor

Daeouse 08-01-2016 08:50 AM

I keep seeing this on my Twitter feed, and I really like the look of it. . .

FastDoc 08-01-2016 02:16 PM

I'm a Royal Enfield owner for about 2 years now and I LOVE my bike.

I'd like a chance to ride the 400 sometime.

BlackBike 08-01-2016 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc (Post 226866)
I'm a Royal Enfield owner for about 2 years now and I LOVE my bike.

I'd like a chance to ride the 400 sometime.

apparently will be lower cost bike... we will expect a full report from you as an early adopter :lmao:

FastDoc 08-01-2016 06:16 PM

I don't think I'll be tradign my DRZ anytime soon LOL.

1cylinderwonder 08-01-2016 08:10 PM

Comparing apples to apples?
 
CSC RX-3------------------------------R.E. Himalaya
Weight. 385 lbs.-----------------401 lbs.
H.P. 24.8.--------------------24.5
Torque. 16.6 ft.lbs.-------------24 ft.lbs.
Lbs./H.P. 15.5--------------------16.3

So what do you want? More horsepower or more torque? :hmm:
Are you looking for top speed or off-road ability? :yay:

FastDoc 08-02-2016 11:09 AM

For an off road bike its ALL about torque.

1cylinderwonder 10-29-2016 12:25 AM

Selling price in India
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 226704)
I contacted Royal Enfield in India requesting information and asked if it will be coming to the USA. I was informed that the selling price will be between 4 to 5 thousand USA dollars. And R.E. Is establishing an entry port in Texas where all the Enfield bikes will be assembled and fine tuned by certified technicians before heading to US dealers so there will be no half-assed assembly. The carbs will all be replaced with fuel injection to meet USA air quality standards. They are currently being road tested in the Detroit area and hopefully will be appearing at the International Motorcycle Shows around the world this year.
I requested to be placed on the waiting list for gaining information for when the Himalaya bikes will become available for sale in the USA.
This is more my style and size of bike. I'll be an early purchaser/owner! :yay:

The selling price in India for the Himalaya is equivalent to $2300.00 and $2600.00 U.S. Dollars, depending on whether it is an on-road or off-road model. It will be interesting to see what the selling price in the U.S.A. will be.
I was informed by Royal Enfield that the bike will be on display at the Long Beach International Mototcycle Show next month. Hope to view and try it on for size!:clap:

Sport Rider 10-30-2016 07:49 PM

would love to be able to get these in a crate like the hawks can be bought. save a few bucks, assemble myself. Price will be key.

BlackBike 10-30-2016 08:24 PM

Oh, these are much too special. They have to be assembled, adjusted calibrated etc,etc by the most highly trained north American specialists....Add on a couple thousand.

BlackBike 10-30-2016 08:42 PM

Not ticking my box. Awesome bike but I know they are going to go crazy on the price because of the r.e. prominence. Hawks, Storms and tt's will already climb telephone poles, will these 400cc r.e. do traffic at 24 hp? We ll see

1cylinderwonder 10-31-2016 12:24 AM

16 lbs. makes that much difference in performance?
 
[QUOTE=1cylinderwonder;226932
CSC RX-3------------------R.E. Himalayan
Weight. 385 lbs.-----------------401 lbs.
H.P. 24.8.--------------------24.5
Torque. 16.6 ft.lbs.-------------24 ft.lbs.
Lbs./H.P. 15.5--------------------16.3
[/QUOTE]
16 lbs. of extra weight, but 7 ft.lbs. more torque!:clap:

1cylinderwonder 10-31-2016 12:30 AM

Sounds like an upgrade compared to most China bikes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 234829)
Oh, the R.E.s have to be assembled, adjusted calibrated etc,etc by the highly trained north American specialists

And this is bad, because?:lmao:

BlackBike 10-31-2016 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 234848)
And this is bad, because?:lmao:

$$$$$$$$

2LZ 10-31-2016 03:12 PM

Thank the Good Lord I don't have any more room in my garage. ;-)

BlackBike 10-31-2016 11:49 PM

Here's your answer 2lz
 
https://www.pods.com/Image Library/U...ainersizes.jpg

hertz9753 11-01-2016 12:55 AM

I think 2LZ is lying. I did lose a race with my 1981 Honda XL185S to top speed against a Yamaha CT175 on pavement by a bike length. I think it was that low front fender that gave him the edge. We were going at it up to about 63 MPH because we couldn't go faster.


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