New project (or...What did I get myself into)
 

I guess I should put up a good picture to show what I'm up against.

That's a challenge. But be creative. Use your imagination. You are at zero dollars in the project. Get to salvage diving for similar bikes.

Does it have a title? If so the most expensive part will be the engine. The most difficult thing will be the seat. The rest is easy.

This should bolt in with minimal work.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIFAN-200CC-...7d4190&vxp=mtr

Looks better than my project bike.
Should be fun!

Welcome!

You seem to have a decent rolling chassis to start. You can build these bikes for peanuts with a little effort. Do you have (or can you get) the original motor? Rebuild parts are as cheap as chips.

@katoranger-Yes I have the title:tup:

@weldangrind-I do not have access to the original engine. The guy made a "junk run", with all the original parts he removed, the day before he remembered I was craving a bike.

I would love to source the original OHC 250 that went in it, but i can't get any Hensim specific info with my searches. As you said, I have found the crank and pistons and big bore kits ad nauseum. So plentiful are they, I wouldn't be totally opposed to snagging a burnt up 250 and doing the rebuild myself.

A side note, do any of you have any experience with these in high altitude? I'd love to make my way through some of these mountains with this thing.

I'm sorry guys...I have no idea why I find this so funny. I just realized the part number for the Lifan 200 is 167 "FML". I'm having trouble breathing!

Didn't somebody say that a sense of humor is important when riding a chinese bike?

I thought the same thing as well. I guess the Chinese have a twisted sense of humor. At least the engine code isn't 163ftw!

Then again...maybe that's the perfect name for the project...:lol:

You can certainly buy an OHC engine, but a pushrod engine will also fall into place. In either case, I might even have the front motor mount laying around. You might be able to find a cheap China bike on CL that you can harvest the engine from. Between the two bikes, hopefully you'll have everything you need.

Did you get the title with this bike?

Sure thing! Title in hand and no leans.

It seems to me that another forum member (and he might have even been from Bremerton) had a motor with a wasted piston. Perhaps we can find him with a bit of searching.

Funny you should mention fastrs2.5! This was his bike.:tup:

Ah. So much for that idea.

Do you intend to ride this bike on the street?

Yup! My vision is something in army green with ammo cans for saddle bags. I'd like to commute on the regular and occasionally head out to the trails and under-developed roads.

Ok, then you'd need to shoot for a stator that will support a battery and lights. You could use an old Honda XR200 motor, but you'd need an XL185 / XL200 stator.

I think it would be more fun to push a China motor to the limits, but I'm odd like that.

I like the metal ammo can idea, but they're heavy. Instead, I bought plastic ammo cans for cheap from Cabelas (and two Cabelas locations aren't far from you).

I never thought of using plastic. I guess anything water tight would work. As for the engine, I'd really prefer to keep it the Lifan family. The CCW bikes are based on the Lifan engine (from what I've read), so any experience i can garner from this would only be more helpful down the road. I'll keep the electrical system in the front of my mind, also, since I would like to have a 12v outlet for a GPS...eventually. First things first, I need to find a 163FML to get this thing a heart. Craigslist, ho!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROKETA-DB36-...966819&vxp=mtr if you can stand the price , it comes with all the electrics and carb

And that's absolutely gorgeous! The price is a bit much at the moment. Gonna have to start saving my nickles I guess :shrug:

With that motor, you can have a zero mile road bike for under a grand. That's a win my friend.:)

It is a win, but a used China motor could be a lot more economical. I bought a China dirt bike with a 223cc pushrod motor, and sold the rest of the parts for almost what I paid for the whole bike. The engine is currently in Son of Weldangrind's XR200R.

I dont know how I missed this, but if you do have this front mount how much do you want for it?

Let me dig for it first.

It's dark right now, so I'll have to check the shed another time. In the meantime:

Do you have a pic of your existing gauge assembly?
Do you need both passenger peg assemblies? Please show me a pic of where they mount.
Are you missing the entire exhaust system?
Is the entire air box missing?
Do you mean the bolt that the brake pedal pivots on?
Are you missing the seat?

Don't be shy about Taobao; I've used them several times. Start off by buying something small to test the waters. I can even show you a link for something that has turned out well for me.

+1 for taobao, just got a seat, tank, pipe, pegs and side panels for the Panterra cafe project from them

I am going to follow your project like a religion, sir! That is right up my alley. I'll look into Taobao more. I just need some time to figure out the jargon. Going back and forth with the translations is turning up a lot of "no results". But I'll keep on keepin on.

Let me go grab some pictures of the rear section of frame...ok, I just checked and what I thought was a set of mounting holes doesn't have a left side partner. So scratch the pegs. I'm going to have to rent a welder and do something custom.

Gauges are totally missing. I have the rear section of exhaust pipe but no mounting flange. Plus some pretty cruddy junk fell out of it when I unbolted the thing. Maybe it's best to just replace with new. I have the whole airbox, but because of how awkward it was to remove, I am thinking an open element would be better. Again, that's a cheap part new from even the local speed shop. The bolt missing on the brake is exactly that. It pivots about this bolt that secures directly to the frame. And the seat is uncomfortably absent. Should I consider leaving off the plastic and custom building a seat with a flat base instead of sourcing an original?

It sounds like you need a head pipe, and the old Honda XR200 would be a close enough match to your bike. See if you can find one for cheap on eBay. Once you have that (and an engine), the muffler can be planned out. I have a China muffler that would probably work.

The passenger peg mount is a mystery; please show us pics of both sides.

I'm with you on removing the airbox. It's best to keep it to stop water from getting into the carb, but if the boot that connects the airbox to the carb shrinks, it's done. You can always fab a shield for an open element filter.

Please show us a pic of the brake pedal assmembly, perhaps with a simple bolt holding it together for photographic illustration.

Post in the Wanted section of the Free Classifieds, and see if anyone has a seat. As long as you have the correct plastic base, it can be recovered for cheap.

Sure thing! I'm out and about right now, but when I get home I'll see if I can drag some lights into the garage and snap some pics.

This is where the brake pedal goes. The hole immediately above and to the left of the foot peg is the spot where it would attach and pivot.
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These are the right and left sides of the rear section. I looked all over for some kind of symmetrical fastening point, either mount holes or broken welds, but I see nothing. I'm assuming that I'll just have to weld in some sort of triangle shaped rod to mount some universal pegs or something.
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I just relized my cool sports co200gy has virtualy identical frame and plastics as urs does mines just prob a rebadged version and has drum rear

Outta curiosity are the first 4 of vin lrcc as from research I've gathered it'll be loncin and lf is lifan

LUAHYN are the first characters. I just looked up the CO200GY-4 and it's a dead ringer! I'm so excited to see a familiar face!:thanks:

I have a disc in the rear but the plastic looks identical. I think I'm going to buy their parts manual. It may make some of the harder to find things not so hard to find. How is the feel of the seat? I hear it's a sore point with a lot of people.

I like my seat better then my wifes lifan as its wider only thing I don't like is the small hump in middle as I'm 6'5 I'm actualy thinking about either trimming it or re doing foam and make new cover. I have pics of bike in the newbie and new to me thread