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MOTOXtreme 05-28-2017 03:28 PM

hole in flexible intake...
 
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I should have taken the picture before the patch but...I was getting some popping / sputtering at idle that I couldn't shake. I discovered a hole in my flexible intake runner. I have temporally "patched" this with rtv and I'm waiting on it to dry.

Brozz owners check yours where I have mine patched. Heck, put a picture of yours here so I can see just how bad mine really was.

***Wondering if the TT250 intake is the same??***

BlackBike 05-28-2017 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 257408)
I should have taken the picture before the patch but...I was getting some popping / sputtering at idle that I couldn't shake. I discovered a hole in my flexible intake runner. I have temporally "patched" this with rtv and I'm waiting on it to dry.

Brozz owners check yours where I have mine patched. Heck, put a picture of yours here so I can see just how bad mine really was.

***Wondering if the TT250 intake is the same??***

Nice catch

MOTOXtreme 05-28-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 257425)
Nice catch

Yep. It runs much better now. Not sure how long that hole had been there but I know it had gotten progressively worse the last few days. Fairly sure that rtv will work for a while but Id still like to pick up a replacement if anyone knows where I could get the proper one.

Ariel Red Hunter 05-28-2017 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 257408)
I should have taken the picture before the patch but...I was getting some popping / sputtering at idle that I couldn't shake. I discovered a hole in my flexible intake runner. I have temporally "patched" this with rtv and I'm waiting on it to dry.

Brozz owners check yours where I have mine patched. Heck, put a picture of yours here so I can see just how bad mine really was.

***Wondering if the TT250 intake is the same??***

That part should be replaced under warranty. It is defective....ARH

MOTOXtreme 05-28-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter (Post 257429)
That part should be replaced under warranty. It is defective....ARH

It is, your right. But if you only know how much Ive had to bug them to warranty my rusted tank (still in transit from china), broken speedo cluster (was covered in brake fluid during shipping and its cracked all to pieces *This has since arrived*) , you would understand why I would just rather order it lol

JeremyC 05-28-2017 05:39 PM

I'm waiting to find a solid aluminum one for when my Hawk's dry-rots. They're listed on amazon, but seem to be forever out of stock.

MOTOXtreme 05-28-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyC (Post 257434)
I'm waiting to find a solid aluminum one for when my Hawk's dry-rots. They're listed on amazon, but seem to be forever out of stock.

Can you link me to it? Thanks
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Originally Posted by jeffrey (Post 257436)
Get one from CSC for the tt250.

I'm thinking I may. Seems a lot of parts cross over to the Brozz.

da4design 05-28-2017 07:23 PM

this it?
http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/TT250-...p/zt15-101.htm

MOTOXtreme 05-28-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by da4design (Post 257440)

99% sure yeah. I'll go with that one unless someone can link an ebay listing.

BigWeld 05-29-2017 01:50 PM

Factory Bashan Brozz intake pic; here ya go MOTO

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...pshgu4xp27.jpg

BigWeld 05-29-2017 01:56 PM

On a side note, have any of you Brozz/Shark/Enforcer owners pulled the EPA smog air injection nonsense off your motor yet? If so, please post pics and the proper procedure as I'm truly considering this modification. With the aftermarket exhaust, this is creating a small backfire upon deceleration, in addition to my sneaking suspicion that my stock pilot jet is too small.

MOTOXtreme 05-29-2017 05:52 PM

Thanks Big! Mine had a perfect square hole. So perfect for a few minutes I was convinced it was supposed to be there lol. But reality set in and I plugged that bugger. Put over 100 miles on mine today (almost hitting 1K) and boy she ran great! Gonna order another intake, maybe a mukini carb, and just enjoy the heck out of this Brozz

BigWeld 05-29-2017 09:40 PM

Thanks Jeff! :tup:

2LZ 05-30-2017 12:59 PM

This is extremely common and will happen to most, if not all of them in time. It will on;y get worse until you have the entire rubber area coated with RTV.3

I've had three of them and replaced them with this. Works great and helps support the carb better if you run a pod filter too. Unfortunately "currently unavailable"...but that changes. I have not had any issues with them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

JerryHawk250 05-30-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 257632)
This is extremely common and will happen to most, if not all of them in time. It will on;y get worse until you have the entire rubber area coated with RTV.3

I've had three of them and replaced them with this. Works great and helps support the carb better if you run a pod filter too. Unfortunately "currently unavailable"...but that changes. I have not had any issues with them.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I been having that one on my wish list for a while if it would ever become available again. I haven't seen it anywhere else but on Amazon.

JeremyC 05-30-2017 03:23 PM

I spotted some on taobao I think it was, but I'd rather find a US based source.

2LZ 05-30-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 257637)
I been having that one on my wish list for a while if it would ever become available again. I haven't seen it anywhere else but on Amazon.

Yah, I got lucky. I bought one while we were waiting for Mrs 2LZ TT250 to show up (boat deal, long wait). It's sitting on my shelf waiting to be used when her original one eventually fails. China rubber is not the best stuff. Add heat to it and it's even worse.

JerryHawk250 05-30-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 257646)
Yah, I got lucky. I bought one while we were waiting for Mrs 2LZ TT250 to show up (boat deal, long wait). It's sitting on my shelf waiting to be used when her original one eventually fails. China rubber is not the best stuff. Add heat to it and it's even worse.

That's why I getting one when ever they are available. I like to know how many I have changed over the years on atv's.

MOTOXtreme 05-30-2017 07:17 PM

Well thanks there 2LZ. I found one on aliExpress. Never ordered from them before but nows a good time to start I suppose...


This MUST have been there from day one and was very tiny. This bike has never ran better than it does now with the rtv on there.

BigWeld 05-30-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 257663)
Well thanks there 2LZ. I found one on aliExpress. Never ordered from them before but nows a good time to start I suppose...


This MUST have been there from day one and was very tiny. This bike has never ran better than it does now with the rtv on there.

AliExpress is great. Kinda slow shipping, but the cheap cost makes up for that. Wish.com and Geek.com have some great cheap dirt bike accessories as well.....

JerryHawk250 05-30-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 257663)
Well thanks there 2LZ. I found one on aliExpress. Never ordered from them before but nows a good time to start I suppose...


This MUST have been there from day one and was very tiny. This bike has never ran better than it does now with the rtv on there.

Please post a link. I looked there earlier but couldn't find the angled manifold only the straight one.

MOTOXtreme 05-30-2017 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 257669)
Please post a link. I looked there earlier but couldn't find the angled manifold only the straight one.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/200c...939600184.html

da4design 05-30-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 257670)

you bought the last one!! lol

JerryHawk250 05-30-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 257670)

How did I miss that one? Thanks. Maybe they will have them in stock before amazon does

MOTOXtreme 05-30-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by da4design (Post 257671)
you bought the last one!! lol

Actually no. I didn't pull the trigger yet but they were available earlier. Oh well. Lemmie know if anyone finds another source. I'll definitely pick one up.

JerryHawk250 05-31-2017 09:54 AM

Found on Amazon.CA https://www.amazon.ca/Cozy-Aluminum-.../dp/B013VZETM0

2LZ 05-31-2017 09:59 AM

Yah.... I think that the rubber fused manifold are that way to possibly keep some of the harmonic vibration off the carb????....is the only thing I can think of. It can't be to stifle heat from the motor because not many substances sheds heat like aluminum.
It will be interesting to get more of these solid manifolds out there and in service to see how they do. Like I said, I've not had any issues with them but I don't ride hard either.

Funny thing was my Lifan motor (X-Moto) took the manifold flipped one way and the TT250 takes it flipped the other way. It's just a matter of which way the carb points coming off the motor.

pcspecialist 05-31-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 257749)

Great find, I just ordered one.

MOTOXtreme 05-31-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 257749)

Awesome man. Ordered that bad boy. Thanks!!!

2LZ 06-01-2017 03:56 PM

The cool things is they come with the rubber washer built in too! No need to peel it out of your existing manifold.

MOTOXtreme 06-01-2017 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 257955)
The cool things is they come with the rubber washer built in too! No need to peel it out of your existing manifold.

I was wondering that very thing. Thanks 2LZ. I'll probably run the existing intake for a bit just to see how long it last. ( cant stand wasting usable stuff lol )

2LZ 06-02-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 257970)
I was wondering that very thing. Thanks 2LZ. I'll probably run the existing intake for a hit just to see how long it last. ( cant stand wasting usable stuff lol )

I know what you mean....but keep your eye on it. I holed a piston in my old HD Ironhead with a leaky intake o-ring. It wasn't pretty.

Ariel Red Hunter 06-02-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 257750)
Yah.... I think that the rubber fused manifold are that way to possibly keep some of the harmonic vibration off the carb????....is the only thing I can think of. It can't be to stifle heat from the motor because not many substances sheds heat like aluminum.
It will be interesting to get more of these solid manifolds out there and in service to see how they do. Like I said, I've not had any issues with them but I don't ride hard either.

Funny thing was my Lifan motor (X-Moto) took the manifold flipped one way and the TT250 takes it flipped the other way. It's just a matter of which way the carb points coming off the motor.

The idea of the plastic or rubber intake pipe is to isolate the carburetor from engine heat. You are right, aluminum is a great heat shedder. The idea is to keep the heat from the head heating the carb..ARH

pcspecialist 06-18-2017 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 257749)

I tried installing it yesterday and it turned out to be too long and the wrong angle.

MOTOXtreme 06-18-2017 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist (Post 259555)
I tried installing it yesterday and it turned out to be too long and the wrong angle.

Thats weird. Ive had mine for a while and I too tried installing it yesterday with (obviously) the same results.

I'll just toss mine onto the classifieds here and ebay. Someone can get some good use from it.

So.....Round two. If anyone knows of a replacement that fits out bikes, please advise.

pete 06-19-2017 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist (Post 259555)
I tried installing it yesterday and it turned out to be too long and the wrong angle.

got to love the Chinamen... sell anything for anything..
just last week I was looking at a set of front BRAKE SHOES
on a china site... one of the bikes they listed as fitment was a YZF250...
The thing is yamaha have never made a YZF250 with drum brakes...

a case of know what yer buying.......


PS... why a all alloy intake manifold.... heat & vibration transfured to the carb...



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2LZ 06-19-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTOXtreme (Post 259561)
Thats weird. Ive had mine for a while and I too tried installing it yesterday with (obviously) the same results.

I'll just toss mine onto the classifieds here and ebay. Someone can get some good use from it.

So.....Round two. If anyone knows of a replacement that fits out bikes, please advise.

Does it look exactly like the picture? It should fit.
Like I said in a prior post, you can flip them upside down depending on which way the carb points.
On my X-moto, since you can no longer flex the manifold, I had to mount the carb to the manifold, then work the whole unit into place.

JerryHawk250 06-19-2017 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pcspecialist (Post 259555)
I tried installing it yesterday and it turned out to be too long and the wrong angle.

Sorry guys . Well I feel like a dumb a__. :doh: Even though they have the same description and picture as the one that works the one you have has a different part number. It should be part # 00312 and not 00533. Does it look anything like the picture? I'll do some more searching. I like to have one on hand before I need one.

2LZ 06-19-2017 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pete (Post 259587)
PS... why a all alloy intake manifold.... heat & vibration transfured to the carb...
.

I ran one on my X-Moto 200GY for over two years with no issues, before I sold it.....and it gets over 110' here. Not that I ride when it's that hot.

MOTOXtreme 06-19-2017 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 259612)
Does it look exactly like the picture? It should fit.
Like I said in a prior post, you can flip them upside down depending on which way the carb points.
On my X-moto, since you can no longer flex the manifold, I had to mount the carb to the manifold, then work the whole unit into place.

Yep, I tried every way. Simply formed at a different angle than ours.
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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 259613)
Sorry guys . Well I feel like a dumb a__. :doh: Even though they have the same description and picture as the one that works the one you have has a different part number. It should be part # 00312 and not 00533. Does it look anything like the picture? I'll do some more searching. I like to have one on hand before I need one.

Hey, no problem. I have one exactly like stock saved in my ebay page for $8 shipped. I'll prob buy is as a backup for now.


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